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Arkle/Marsh/RSA/NH Chase - Novice Chasers 2021 (new)

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  • Originally posted by Lobos
    Does anyone think that they'll potentially skip Cheltenham again and wait for Aintree/Punchestown. If they feel he's better off over Marsh distance I can't see them taking in Envoi with him.
    They missed Cheltenham last year so I would have thought they would be keen to go this year. If he wants to go 2 mile 4 then he go 2 mile 4 but that does not mean he's nailed on for the marsh. Gordon could have his next two runs in grade 1's where he'll only be 78.2% wound up, he'll finish 5th in one and 6th in the other, get a mark of 142 and absolutely bolt up in the plate!!

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    • Horses like Andy Dufresne are ones I want to avoid if I can, ante post.

      I don't know what his target will be and I don't know if he'll be good enough.

      Too high profile/hyped to be under priced for anything?

      I only watched it on my phone so can't judge the jumping too harshly yet. He'd definitely be mentioned on here for the Novice Handicap Chase if that still was about

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      • I thought AD did well there, again I’ve seen a lot worse debuts. I think the low sun may have played a part of some of the jumping of the horses, a few looked a bit guessy so the sun may have caused a distraction. A number of positives, he ran left handed, didn’t fall, powered away at the end in soft/heavy ground and won the race. I’m happy to have AD covered at all 3 distances at big odds. JP could mop up at next years festival at this rate, he’s got some serious fire power.

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        • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
          Does anyone think that they'll potentially skip Cheltenham again and wait for Aintree/Punchestown. If they feel he's better off over Marsh distance I can't see them taking on Envoi with him.
          I would think that Andy Dufresne wouldn’t miss Cheltenham in March if his performances, coming up, justifies a run there.

          I also don’t think they would duck Envoi Allen, if both horses show the mid-trip suits, and they are both Grade 1 or 2 winning Novice Chasers then both could easily run in it.

          Easywork didn’t duck Envoi Allen, Abacadabras didn’t duck Envoi Allen in the Christmas Grade 1 Hurdle last year, Gordon will no doubt have one runner or more against Envoi Allen at Cheltenham.

          Same as AOB on the flat, multiple runners give you more chance, and stable first choices in any race aren’t guaranteed to win, particularly in their toughest assignment of the season, and over fences.
          "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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          • Originally posted by Kevloaf
            Horses like Andy Dufresne are ones I want to avoid if I can, ante post.

            I don't know what his target will be and I don't know if he'll be good enough.

            Too high profile/hyped to be under priced for anything?

            I only watched it on my phone so can't judge the jumping too harshly yet. He'd definitely be mentioned on here for the Novice Handicap Chase if that still was about
            This is the camp I'm in as well, having not backed him to date, though it had crossed my mind I just couldn't decide what for and his any race price was definitely not for me.

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            • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie
              This is the camp I'm in as well, having not backed him to date, though it had crossed my mind I just couldn't decide what for and his any race price was definitely not for me.
              Agreed that 14s pre-race today wasn’t attractive for AD.

              He jumped well and those that got 33/1 any race /win today, have got a good price, and a chance from handicaps upwards, or even a decent chance over hurdles off 145, if his Chase runs dropped away.
              "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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              • Captain Guinness
                5g Arakan – Presenting D'Azy
                Declan Landy
                12B-P
                RPR 150h OR -
                He was pulled up on his chasing debut at Tipperary last week and we discovered afterwards that he had an atrial fibrillation, meaning his heart was out of rhythm. It's basically the same thing that Sprinter Sacre and Denman had. He's with the vets at the moment and we can hopefully have him back out in the next five or six weeks. He had great novice hurdle form last year and before Tipperary he'd been working well and his jumping was good.

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                • Originally posted by jack1092
                  Captain Guinness
                  5g Arakan – Presenting D'Azy
                  Declan Landy
                  12B-P
                  RPR 150h OR -
                  He was pulled up on his chasing debut at Tipperary last week and we discovered afterwards that he had an atrial fibrillation, meaning his heart was out of rhythm. It's basically the same thing that Sprinter Sacre and Denman had. He's with the vets at the moment and we can hopefully have him back out in the next five or six weeks. He had great novice hurdle form last year and before Tipperary he'd been working well and his jumping was good.
                  At least something has come to light. Not brilliant but could be worse. Captain fans can still dream.

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                  • Not that it will come as any surprise but ... Elliot today confirming Codd will ride Galvin come March.

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                    • Originally posted by Crolwey113
                      Not that it will come as any surprise but ... Elliot today confirming Codd will ride Galvin come March.
                      That is very, very unusual for them to call that so early.

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                      • Originally posted by Lobos
                        That is very, very unusual for them to call that so early.
                        My guess is Codd was on the phone Friday afternoon booking himself on Galvin...

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                        • Originally posted by Crolwey113 View Post
                          Not that it will come as any surprise but ... Elliot today confirming Codd will ride Galvin come March.
                          Was this an interview today or an article Crowley?

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                          • Originally posted by Outlaw
                            Was this an interview today or an article Crowley?
                            Interview today on twitter.
                            And he also mentioned in an interview Friday afternoon.

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                            • Cheers Q, he already looks a much better fav than Cs was last year albeit he started later but he's getting hard to knock.
                              Top jock
                              Top trainer
                              Top rated(prob)

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                              • Originally posted by Outlaw
                                Cheers Q, he already looks a much better fav than Cs was last year albeit he started later but he's getting hard to knock.
                                Top jock
                                Top trainer
                                Top rated(prob)
                                Yep, only danger is getting another Lord du Mesnil type rising up the ratings in good attritional handicaps.
                                And Mullins, of course.

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