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Ballymore Novice Hurdle 2019

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  • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
    If he goes to chelt he'll be likely in the martin pipe. Without sugar coating it, In all honesty he's no chance in a grade 1 novice at chelt. He dosent look particularly likely to be ahead of his mark at 138 on what he's shown. But for anyone who's got him any race that's what you'd be hoping.
    Good shout. I saw Ed Quigley on twitter namecheck the same race for him earlier on today as well. Even then though you'd assume they'll be others in the MP who are much more progressive

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    • Felt slightly underwhelmed with CoF there, did the job I suppose

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      • CoF pretty impressive although only beat trees obviously.

        I like him. Glad to be on early.

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        • He was absolutely fine - But you can see why gigginstown struggle to produce champions at 2 miles , they all look like chasers

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          • You can look at that 2 ways he was very green. I'm not a fan of his jumping technique he's too slow and measured Imo jumps it like a fence. It was a good debut and hes open to improvement. He's not for me at 16/1 I can see him being beat. You could see a limit to his talent there. And there's no hiding place in Ireland pre chelt.
            He's not a 2 miler and He's deffinately no samcro
            Last edited by Scooby91; 17 November 2018, 12:57 PM.
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            • Not a great deal learned there. Davy got him to jump a few nice and quick but I agree he was ponderous at some others. I can’t see them going back in distance and I still believe Fame And Glory progeny will need this trip at least to be fully effective.

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              • Little underwhelming, but first start over hurdles and a win, can't exactly moan about it too much.

                Better opposition and expected improvement will show how good he really is.

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                • No chance that runs in the Supreme.

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                  • Got to be a Ballymore horse

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                    • Originally posted by jonthehammer View Post
                      Got to be a Ballymore horse
                      Or the bartlett. Depends how good he is up in grade.
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                      • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
                        Or the bartlett. Depends how good he is up in grade.
                        I have him for this and a saver any race. Rather this one for obvious reasons.

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                        • Interesting from davy but dosent sound like he's the top of the pecking order to me.



                          “That was great and a lovely start,” said Russell.

                          “He's childish in his ways and these are only just steps along the way.

                          “Where he'll end up, God only knows, but he's a nice horse today anyway.

                          “It was ideal as we went a reasonable gallop and he picked up well off it.

                          Regarding trip he added:- “He's versatile I'd say. Obviously connections have other horses to be thinking of too. It's great to have the choice with him.”
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                          • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
                            Interesting from davy but dosent sound like he's the top of the pecking order to me.



                            “That was great and a lovely start,” said Russell.

                            “He's childish in his ways and these are only just steps along the way.

                            “Where he'll end up, God only knows, but he's a nice horse today anyway.

                            “It was ideal as we went a reasonable gallop and he picked up well off it.

                            Regarding trip he added:- “He's versatile I'd say. Obviously connections have other horses to be thinking of too. It's great to have the choice with him.”
                            How on earth did you get “doesn’t sound like he’s top of the pecking order” from that quote?

                            I know you don’t rate the horse or performance but I think you’re trying to find something negative.

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                            • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post
                              How on earth did you get “doesn’t sound like he’s top of the pecking order” from that quote?

                              I know you don’t rate the horse or performance but I think you’re trying to find something negative.
                              Quite possibly i read too much into it but In my honest assessment

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                              Last year samcro had a set target and everything was slotting in around him.
                              I took that as they have another horse lined up, and they'll see where he slots in.
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                              • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
                                Quite possibly i read too much into it but In my honest assessment

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                                Last year samcro had a set target and everything was slotting in around him.
                                I took that as they have another horse lined up, and they'll see where he slots in.
                                Might be wrong, but although he was the hype horse, wasn't Samcro a possible for all 3 races until later in the season?

                                That generally seems to be the case with most horses, as trainers like to leave options open. I'm sure Elliott said speed for 2, but could stay 3 miles etc.

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