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  • I thought it odd that Angels Breath was taken out of Chelt for the ground think this entry goes a long way to explaining why.

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    • Originally posted by billymag View Post
      I thought it odd that Angels Breath was taken out of Chelt for the ground think this entry goes a long way to explaining why.
      Why's that ?

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      • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
        The kennel gate.
        It's a well known supreme route for hendo.
        Not really the best record of finding the Supreme winner from, this race.

        2017 - Claimantakinforgan (won it) & Slate House ran in it, both readily beat at the festival, though Slate House did fall, he was behind at the time.

        2016 - Keep In Line finished 3rd in it and got stuffed by Wholestone in the Neptune, Thomas Campbell finished 5th @ Ascot then 5th @ the festival in the Martin Pipe.

        2015 - Yanworth, the last horse to do anything of note after competing in the race, won @ Ascot before finishing 2nd in the Neptune, Charbel was in 2nd @ Ascot but was stuffed by Altior (no surprise) in the Supreme that season.

        2014 - L'ami Serge won the race then got smashed by Douvan at the festival, Killultagh Vic finished 2nd to L'ami Serge @ Ascot but did win the Martin Pipe that season.

        2013 - Irving won the race then got hammered in the, you guessed it, Supreme, by Vautour, Splash Of Ginge 3rd to Irving @ Ascot, hammered in the same Supreme.

        Seems like it is one for horses that go further than the Supreme.

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        • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
          Not really the best record of finding the Supreme winner from, this race.

          2017 - Claimantakinforgan (won it) & Slate House ran in it, both readily beat at the festival, though Slate House did fall, he was behind at the time.

          2016 - Keep In Line finished 3rd in it and got stuffed by Wholestone in the Neptune, Thomas Campbell finished 5th @ Ascot then 5th @ the festival in the Martin Pipe.

          2015 - Yanworth, the last horse to do anything of note after competing in the race, won @ Ascot before finishing 2nd in the Neptune, Charbel was in 2nd @ Ascot but was stuffed by Altior (no surprise) in the Supreme that season.

          2014 - L'ami Serge won the race then got smashed by Douvan at the festival, Killultagh Vic finished 2nd to L'ami Serge @ Ascot but did win the Martin Pipe that season.

          2013 - Irving won the race then got hammered in the, you guessed it, Supreme, by Vautour, Splash Of Ginge 3rd to Irving @ Ascot, hammered in the same Supreme.

          Seems like it is one for horses that go further than the Supreme.
          And which race in the UK, not Ireland , has the best record, the cheltenham trials I'd imagine ?.
          People were saying same dort of thing last year bout the tolworth and look what happened.

          Think this stat means very little other than previous winners haven't proved good enough or turned up come March.
          It's just what it is, nothing more

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          • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
            Yeah, I wouldn't read too much into that entry yet, Willie, amongst other trainers has multiple entries in that race. Tough start out to life over hurdles should he take that on first time out.
            Available at 42.0 for a couple of quid of BF suggests the entry could be some way off!

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            • Think they skipped Chelt for a crack at Grade 2 first time out which hopefully means they think hes rather good

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              • Originally posted by billymag View Post
                Think they skipped Chelt for a crack at Grade 2 first time out which hopefully means they think hes rather good
                gotcha....

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                • Originally posted by billymag View Post
                  Think they skipped Chelt for a crack at Grade 2 first time out which hopefully means they think hes rather good
                  Impressed with Al Dancer?

                  Could have a bit of a related each way double there Billy with Angel's Breath?

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                  • Scooby anything on the HDB horse vs Face the facts tomorrw?

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                    • Originally posted by quevega View Post
                      And which race in the UK, not Ireland , has the best record, the cheltenham trials I'd imagine ?.
                      People were saying same dort of thing last year bout the tolworth and look what happened.

                      Think this stat means very little other than previous winners haven't proved good enough or turned up come March.
                      It's just what it is, nothing more
                      Fair point Quevega, but I have differing views on the Tolworth anyway so don't listen to that one so much.

                      I guess it depends how you view each race, and although I have only had a look at the history of the Kennel Gate today I can't see a positive view on it for the Supreme as of yet. I will keep an eye out for one's like Angels Breath who may well step up in trip after this though.

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                      • Interesting idea Kev on the related double. Tempted

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                        • Originally posted by billymag View Post
                          Interesting idea Kev on the related double. Tempted
                          713/1 with Slybet... I bet people have placed worse bets today with their free bets

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                          • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                            Impressed with Al Dancer?

                            Could have a bit of a related each way double there Billy with Angel's Breath?
                            Al Dancer is on my Radar , but where do you think he'll end up , I was thinking supreme ??.

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                            • Yes i think so. But without seeing Angels Breath its all guess work at moment. Id of thought that if the pair were good enough to line up at the festival then most owners would try and keep them apart.

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                              • Downtown Getaway finally confirmed in a hot looking race at Newbury tomorrow over 2m4f. I was expecting him to be more middle distance so this should mean he’s likely to be a Ballymore or Albert Bartlett horse. Forces my hand a bit now as if he wins that well he’ll be cut significantly.

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