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Ballymore Novice Hurdle 2019

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  • Well I think that put my Stay Humble bet to bed! Somehow able to cash out for the same money....

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    • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
      Well I think that put my Stay Humble bet to bed! Somehow able to cash out for the same money....
      what about the A.bartlett for stay humble C.O.D ??., i have a small ticket for that race for S.H.

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      • Originally posted by BigChaang View Post
        what about the A.bartlett for stay humble C.O.D ??., i have a small ticket for that race for S.H.
        I have him 'any race' anyway, which I haven't cashed out, so would be happy enough with that. He may well improve on that run, as he had been off the track near 100 days, giving fitness away to most of his rivals too.

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        • Even the horses that beat him in his bumpers would suggest he'd need to step up markedly to get near Cheltenham. He was a bit of a hype horse when first joining Mullins, so perhaps it's just about getting that ability out of him...and they haven't found the key yet...well that's what you'd be hoping if you're a backer!

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          • Pym declared for the Ballymore trial at Cheltenham tomorrow. Glad to see Noel Fehily taking the ride in Nico’s absence.

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            • Regarding Pym, its not normal for N.H. to run a good horse so many times, however its your money and he's not for me sorry.

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              • Originally posted by Chris View Post
                Regarding Pym, its not normal for N.H. to run a good horse so many times, however its your money and he's not for me sorry.
                Out of hendos he's a load of nice ptp/ bumper horses. But with his form with vinndiation and being a 2nd season novice hurdler like mengli khan. CHAMP would interest me, I wouldn't go over board on him as he has a lenient lookong mark of 139 and enough runs that they might look to exploit at the festival in the martin pipe. However they could be sitting on him waiting to run him in something like the Lanzarote on route to here should he progress
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                • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
                  Out of hendos he's a load of nice ptp/ bumper horses. But with his form with vinndiation and being a 2nd season novice hurdler like mengli khan. CHAMP would interest me, I wouldn't go over board on him as he has a lenient lookong mark of 139 and enough runs that they might look to exploit at the festival in the martin pipe. However they could be sitting on him waiting to run him in something like the Lanzarote on route to here should he progress
                  I've been thinking about Champ for the betfair hurdle for ages.

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                  • Originally posted by Chris View Post
                    Regarding Pym, its not normal for N.H. to run a good horse so many times, however its your money and he's not for me sorry.
                    Off the top of my head he ran Altior similarly 3 times in quick succession and again at Christmas before readying him on the gallops for the Supreme and he is one of his best. I haven’t backed Pym for tomorrow if that’s what your referring to but I do have a 45/1 e/w ticket for the Ballymore. He needs the trip he’s got tomorrow and he’ll have to put a disappointing last run behind him but I’d be hopeful of that!

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                    • Yes Altior did run 3 times before christmas however he only raced at around the 2 miles and won them all. Pym will have raced 3 times if he runs to morrow and maybe this will be his trip because 2 mile certainly isn't. So best of luck tomorrow and beyond.

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                      • Commander Of Fleet declared for a 2m 4 hurdle at punchestown tomorrow.

                        Im surprised he didn't take up the 2m maiden for 4 year olds at cork on sunday on the softer ground.

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                        • Originally posted by SAMCRO View Post
                          Commander Of Fleet declared for a 2m 4 hurdle at punchestown tomorrow.

                          Im surprised he didn't take up the 2m maiden for 4 year olds at cork on sunday on the softer ground.

                          What do you do here? he hoses up here at 1/4 as they've found a very easy introduction. He's already short enough at 16s. But the fashion he'll win here he'll get cut a fair bit even though we've learned nothing.

                          You either take the 16s or you'll miss the boat. But as we've seen with Felix desjy you wont find out how good he is until hes in a proper race so can do your dough pretty quick.

                          Gordon's got so many there for the ballymore there's no guarentee at all that he's the pick of his. Let alone the other yards. If samcro diddnt win last year this lad would be 25s and a different scenario.
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                          • You back him any race and watch him win the Martin Pipe

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                            • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
                              What do you do here? he hoses up here at 1/4 as they've found a very easy introduction. He's already short enough at 16s. But the fashion he'll win here he'll get cut a fair bit even though we've learned nothing.

                              You either take the 16s or you'll miss the boat. But as we've seen with Felix desjy you wont find out how good he is until hes in a proper race so can do your dough pretty quick.

                              Gordon's got so many there for the ballymore there's no guarentee at all that he's the pick of his. Let alone the other yards. If samcro diddnt win last year this lad would be 25s and a different scenario.
                              Agree regarding his price, and did write about recency bias with regards to so many thinking he will be the Ballymore horse, of course, he may still turn out to be, but the 16's is poor really.

                              That all said, I have gone in on the exchanges on him, and glad they have found, what looks like a nice, easy introduction, so I can lay it off once he shortens after hopefully winning on debut, which was always my plan anyway.

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                              • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
                                What do you do here? he hoses up here at 1/4 as they've found a very easy introduction. He's already short enough at 16s. But the fashion he'll win here he'll get cut a fair bit even though we've learned nothing.

                                You either take the 16s or you'll miss the boat. But as we've seen with Felix desjy you wont find out how good he is until hes in a proper race so can do your dough pretty quick.

                                Gordon's got so many there for the ballymore there's no guarentee at all that he's the pick of his. Let alone the other yards. If samcro diddnt win last year this lad would be 25s and a different scenario.
                                The price is too short and your'e right its due to samcro last year, however at least we have seen him run in Ireland, in a bumper and look very impressive, With Column of fire franking that form. I know he hadn't done much work with Column of fire so he might well improve pass Commander of Fleet but seeing as hes keeping him back in bumpers this season with Malone road and hopefully Envoi Allen suggests hes happy with whatever novice hurdlers he has for this season.

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