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Albert Bartlett 2019

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  • #76
    It’s a decent enough race so 6/4 is short enough. I’m tempted to add him to my bets now.

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    • #77
      Shaugnessey might be useful

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      • #78
        Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post
        It’s a decent enough race so 6/4 is short enough. I’m tempted to add him to my bets now.
        If you think they'll go easy on him ... will he be an Albert Bartlet type?

        Would he be an unbackable price on the day?


        Depending on how you answer those might help make your mind up?

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
          If you think they'll go easy on him ... will he be an Albert Bartlet type?

          Would he be an unbackable price on the day?


          Depending on how you answer those might help make your mind up?
          They may start out with that view but if he performs well I can see them changing their mind. Good horses don't come around all the time and anything can happen with injury in the future.

          He's 25/1 now with Bet365 and if he wins a couple of races well I can see him shortening up quite a bit as his target is guaranteed (if he goes to the festival).

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          • #80
            Just a personal opinion that this race is gradually changing over the years. When it started it was definitely a race for potential staying chasers but, unless the ground is very soft (eg last March), I'd be looking more for potential Stayers Hurdle contenders. I think this goes hand in hand with the previously noted trend for winners having had a fair amount of hurdling experience.
            Doesn't mean a good potential chaser can't win, just a trend towards better hurdlers being aimed here.
            Last edited by archie; 14 November 2018, 10:36 AM.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by archie View Post
              Just a personal opinion that this race is gradually changing over the years. When it started it was definitely a race for potential staying chasers but, unless the ground is very soft (eg last March), I'd be looking more for potential Stayers Hurdle contenders. I think this goes hand in hand with the previously noted trend for winners having had a fair amount of hurdling experience.
              I’m not sure that’s entirely true as I would still say most years (including last), the placed horses are mainly chasers in the making.

              Time To Move On is now a non runner today so my original fear about the ground has returned to bite me in the ass! Why they bothered entering him with the current forecast I’ve no idea.

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              • #82
                I see N.H. has nice horse called Dickie Diver he won the same race that Monalee won as a 4 year.
                Has anyone heard anything about this horse, his clock was better than Monalee's based on the fact he ran on heavy and Monalee ran on soft.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Chris View Post
                  I see N.H. has nice horse called Dickie Diver he won the same race that Monalee won as a 4 year.
                  Has anyone heard anything about this horse, his clock was better than Monalee's based on the fact he ran on heavy and Monalee ran on soft.
                  I’ll check the stable tour but I think he is sticking to bumpers this season. As he’s with Henderson it’s unlikely he’ll be at the Festival this year if they go that route.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post
                    I’ll check the stable tour but I think he is sticking to bumpers this season. As he’s with Henderson it’s unlikely he’ll be at the Festival this year if they go that route.
                    You'll probably find he has "immense potential"......every single horse pretty much has + will be very exciting according to his tours....almost like their his children

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by jack1092 View Post
                      You'll probably find he has "immense potential"......every single horse pretty much has + will be very exciting according to his tours....almost like their his children
                      Yes he’s certainly enthusiastic about every horse

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                      • #86
                        Backed Monbeg Worldwide on his last 2 runs purely on the basis of how much Derek O'Connor was excited about this horse before his bumper runs. He was 3/3 in bumpers and I had an eye on him for AB last year. I was disappointed when he was beat on debut by Jetz but now it looks a pretty good run considering he has grade 1 form and was in receipt of 8lb.

                        He had another run that season at 2m and I did not want to touch him at this distance he was 3rd well beat before given the rest of the season off. Season debut was again at 2m and I was waiting for a step up in trip, he has now won back to back at 2m4f, 3m should bring the best out of him.

                        I can't see any price quoted but if I could get 50/1 I would snap it right up.

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                        • #87
                          Versatile on the Going too Folski , one for the Tracker .

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post
                            I’m not sure that’s entirely true as I would still say most years (including last), the placed horses are mainly chasers in the making.

                            Time To Move On is now a non runner today so my original fear about the ground has returned to bite me in the ass! Why they bothered entering him with the current forecast I’ve no idea.
                            That may be the case JM but the other point Archie makes is very valid, horses with greater experience have a big advantage here.
                            I think Kilbricken Storm was close to being a trends buster as he was only having his 5th start when the minimum number of runs, I think, was closer 8.
                            Worth delving into PTP careers too because there may be genuine runners with only a few starts under rules but (although rare) could have had multiple PTP starts and therefore possesses required experience...

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Folski View Post
                              Backed Monbeg Worldwide on his last 2 runs purely on the basis of how much Derek O'Connor was excited about this horse before his bumper runs. He was 3/3 in bumpers and I had an eye on him for AB last year. I was disappointed when he was beat on debut by Jetz but now it looks a pretty good run considering he has grade 1 form and was in receipt of 8lb.

                              He had another run that season at 2m and I did not want to touch him at this distance he was 3rd well beat before given the rest of the season off. Season debut was again at 2m and I was waiting for a step up in trip, he has now won back to back at 2m4f, 3m should bring the best out of him.

                              I can't see any price quoted but if I could get 50/1 I would snap it right up.
                              Will be interesting to see what you get wuoted

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                              • #90
                                He already looks a chaser, typical giggy horse indeed- almost surprising he was so good in bumpers.

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