Albert Bartlett 2019

[Quevega]

Think you're being a tad harsh. The horse didn't exactly hurdle fluently throughout, one mistake (probably cost him the race) the horse and jockey were actually lucky to stay in partnership..Obviously the jockey will need to get at the horse after a mistake like that, he lost lots of ground.

He actually rode the horse into the last fence where, again, he was untidy and not fluent. Absolutely no issues with that ride in my opinion- the horse was novicey + that's that.

So if Fehily had got at DG before the mistake, you'd have expected him to have won, and not thrown in any poor jumps (didn't hurdle perfect in the main) ?

Fehily has obviously taken the approach to go steady with the horse, and let him learn his job as he went. Rather than thrash him to bits.

Not harsh just detailed analysis. I do this to spot when a horse may be better than the bare result.
The horse and jockey (as a team) didn't hurdle fluently.
He Lost approx 4 lengths max after the mistake. And they'd only just stepped up the pace.
Jockey did well to stay on board, not lucky really.
Technically he rode the horse into the last as he was sat on it, but he did not ask for any extra effort from his horse.
The horse was novicey.
Yes I would have expected the horse to have won. (by the way, I backed the winner and had no money on DG)
No idea how the horse would have jumped had he been a bit more positive sooner, and nobody else does either.
To have no issues with the ride suggests it was perfect, I disagree,
I don't think anyone has suggested anything gets thrashed to bits, have they ?

A question for you.
Do you think Downtown Getaway was the best horse in the race ?

I Do.

[Quevega]

I prefer a quiet style to the pushing and shoving.

There are certain jockeys including Fehily, Ruby, Barry and Paul Carberry in the day who often look like they are holding onto more than they have. The jockey who goes for persuader last usually rides best race imo.

I prefer a style that gets the best out of the horse on the day.
What you're talking about is visually pleasing rides, as a win always feels a bit better when its done COOL.
One of my best festival memories was Harchibald. Still enjoy watching that and he lost. And I backed him.

I wasn't actually talking about overall style, more about once a horse has to be ridden within a race and how I prefer this to be sustained and not intermittent. And the timing of the run/effort is also vital on the jockey's part.

[jack1092]

Not harsh just detailed analysis. I do this to spot when a horse may be better than the bare result.
The horse and jockey (as a team) didn't hurdle fluently.
He Lost approx 4 lengths max after the mistake. And they'd only just stepped up the pace.
Jockey did well to stay on board, not lucky really.
Technically he rode the horse into the last as he was sat on it, but he did not ask for any extra effort from his horse.
The horse was novicey.
Yes I would have expected the horse to have won. (by the way, I backed the winner and had no money on DG)
No idea how the horse would have jumped had he been a bit more positive sooner, and nobody else does either.
I don't think anyone has suggested anything gets thrashed to bits, have they ?

A question for you.
Do you think Downtown Getaway was the best horse in the race ?

I Do.

Nobody has a clue what a more positive ride would bring, but the horse jumped novicey as you say which leads me to think there's every chance the mistakes happen anyway- either way i don't think riding it patiently is "dopey".
Jockey did well to stay on a bad mistake- the main reason the race was lost in my book is a novicey jump that makes them lucky to stay as a partnership, ie, close to a fall. The jump looks to me to be the horses error having watched it back about 5 times.

Best horse in the race, that's fairly obvious. The horse has done very well to come back from a mistake or two and finish where it has- the horse has been fragile since NH got it (according to ML on twitter). That's got very little to do with the ride for me in this instance.

[Quevega]

I said fairly dopey. not quite as bad as dopey.
I relented to a bit dopey, not bad.
But it wasn't perfect by any means.
Ask Nico and I'd bet he'd gently critique himself and not simply blame the animal.
The best jockeys analyse every defeat and what they could have done differently, if they don;t then they're shit.

[Kevloaf]

I wouldn't have him as a Bartlett horse myself.

I agree with this based on today.

They pace was way too slow to have brought stamina in to it as a major factor.

Johnson rode the best race by miles, had the best position all the way through the race.

I agree with others that Downtown Getaway is the best horse in that race and I'd imagine he'd be favourite against Tidal Flow next time they met, as that mistake was obvious.

I think DG showed class to get back in to the race so quickly after the error.... wouldn't go over board with him though based on today. Just one to keep in the tracker.

[Quevega]

He did travel really well and I'd say Bartlett was more likely due to him running in this race as a start
and visually when really asked for an effort off a slow pace after the last hurdle, He didn't really quicken like I'd have wanted for a potential champion over the 2 and half mile trip.
But it's really difficult to be sure, to be sure.

[Kevloaf]

He did travel really well and I'd say Bartlett was more likely due to him running in this race as a start
and visually when really asked for an effort off a slow pace after the last hurdle, He didn't really quicken like I'd have wanted for a potential champion over the 2 and half mile trip.
But it's really difficult to be sure, to be sure.

Yeah I see what you're saying - as an overall profile he may end up in the AB - purely on the run today I wouldn't fancy him in it... but it's one run. He did travel well, but any good horse would have done off that gallop.

I just didn't watch it and think "that's crying out for the Albert Bartlett" - Equally, I didn't think he was crying out to say he'd have the pace required to win a Ballymore... but again, it is just one run. He might improve loads next time and make my doubts look redundant.

[JackieMoon33]

I had Downtown Getaway come out of hiding for Henderson this week and tomorrow I’m hoping for a big run from Gallahers Cross who has finally made it to the track and looks like he’s going down the Potato route that I was hoping for.

[jono]

I had Downtown Getaway come out of hiding for Henderson this week and tomorrow I’m hoping for a big run from Gallahers Cross who has finally made it to the track and looks like he’s going down the Potato route that I was hoping for.

Same for me Jackie. Starting off at 2m5 certainly suggests this race. Still 33/1 with b365 which I'm tempted to add before he runs

[JackieMoon33]

Same for me Jackie. Starting off at 2m5 certainly suggests this race. Still 33/1 with b365 which I'm tempted to add before he runs

With Bet365 you can’t go wrong adding before he runs at that price.

[Arkle]

Think champ will end up here

[Hurricane fly]

Everyone’s favourite bumper horse from last year Stay Humble is out today at Thurles in a 2m7 race.

Hoping to make it 2 from 3

[jono]

Carefully Selected (Mullins in the RP today)

I think this fella needs a trip so the 2m4 maiden hurdle at Leopardstown on Saturday would look the ideal race for him. The further he goes the better he'll be

[Kevloaf]

Positive.... although 3 miles sounds more ideal if I was being pedantic

[SeanRock]

“The further he goes the better he'll be.”

Music to my ears that. Cheers Jono!