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  • As Kalashnikov is the favourite, time to start looking for negatives....

    Sam Spinner took a bit of a bashing about his chances due to the jockey (justifiably?)

    Jack Quinlan has had 9 rides at Cheltenham - 0 wins (0%) and 1 place (Kalashnikov).

    Wins Runs % 2nd 3rd 4ths winnings total earnings £1 Stake
    Hurdle 50 579 9 54 60 70 £294,268 £481,792 -185.54
    Chase 31 199 16 26 25 30 £222,247 £309,323 -39.11
    NHF 10 106 9 8 7 8 £19,706 £28,774 +24.75
    TOTAL 91 884 10 88 92 108 £536,222 £819,889 -199.90

    Pretty poor strike rate overall of 10%?

    One high profile win, on Kalashnikov in the Betfair Hurdle (can't recall any others - hard to look up?)
    Does Jack Quinlan fill you with confidence? Is the great relationship he has with the horse enough to gloss over the fact he just doesn't have the experience to get a big race like the Arkle right? Does anyone care at all?


    You aren't born with experience so very unfair for me to knock him, but I do feel like AMy Murphy is the up-and-coming trainer, and I Don't feel like Jack Quinlan is on the same trajectory?

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    • Yes Kev, i can see the angle- but having ridden him fine in the Supreme, i would be willing to let it slide. For all, he isn't my selection at the min, but if he was!

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      • Henderson seems adamant Claimantakinforgan is a 2 miler. He has others for the JLT so would make sense this is his Arkle horse.

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        • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
          As Kalashnikov is the favourite, time to start looking for negatives....

          Sam Spinner took a bit of a bashing about his chances due to the jockey (justifiably?)

          Jack Quinlan has had 9 rides at Cheltenham - 0 wins (0%) and 1 place (Kalashnikov).

          Wins Runs % 2nd 3rd 4ths winnings total earnings £1 Stake
          Hurdle 50 579 9 54 60 70 £294,268 £481,792 -185.54
          Chase 31 199 16 26 25 30 £222,247 £309,323 -39.11
          NHF 10 106 9 8 7 8 £19,706 £28,774 +24.75
          TOTAL 91 884 10 88 92 108 £536,222 £819,889 -199.90

          Pretty poor strike rate overall of 10%?

          One high profile win, on Kalashnikov in the Betfair Hurdle (can't recall any others - hard to look up?)
          Does Jack Quinlan fill you with confidence? Is the great relationship he has with the horse enough to gloss over the fact he just doesn't have the experience to get a big race like the Arkle right? Does anyone care at all?


          You aren't born with experience so very unfair for me to knock him, but I do feel like AMy Murphy is the up-and-coming trainer, and I Don't feel like Jack Quinlan is on the same trajectory?
          Funny this, cos I looked at this the other day, and the trainer's record. Jack's chase record is actually significantly better than his hurdles.

          Jack's career chase results summary below
          Runs Wins Places
          Chase 261 37 35 £231,170 14.18% -£76.54 =all time

          Other high profile jockeys (last 12 months only as fairer sample of runners)
          see if you can guess who they are -
          Easy clues = One's stable jockey for Henderson, one for Elliott and the other has a Mcmanus retainer. Obviously all would have sat on better horses, I would assume.

          Chase 117 20 20 £258,839 17.09% -£37.44 = last 12 months
          Chase 128 32 24 £872,871 25% -£23.32 = last 12 months
          Chase 150 26 32 £85,4252 17.33% -£41.45 = last 12 months

          I ended up thinking both trainer and jockey weren't doing bad so it wouldn't influence me too much.

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          • Originally posted by boopa View Post
            Henderson seems adamant Claimantakinforgan is a 2 miler. He has others for the JLT so would make sense this is his Arkle horse.
            That's what I like to hear.

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            • Originally posted by billymag View Post
              Potentially I could see Willie having two or three better, Gordon having two better, Nicky having one better, plus all the other British and Irish trainers, the chance of him getting injured or loss of form, he has the option of the JLT, the worst price of the festival, in my opinion. Im not saying it wasnt a nice introduction and he was fine, its a price thing, Im genuinely stunned they have shortened him and as a result Ive put a £50 lay in at 6/1 on betfair. #moneywherebigmouthis
              Ha Ha I love this !., Your'e a Legend Billymag !!.

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              • Originally posted by boopa View Post
                Henderson seems adamant Claimantakinforgan is a 2 miler. He has others for the JLT so would make sense this is his Arkle horse.
                Let grech and parking know on Twitter they'll have to make a cover bet for the arkle.
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                • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
                  Let grech and parking know on Twitter they'll have to make a cover bet for the arkle.
                  How big is their bet for the JLT?

                  What is he wins impressively on Sunday, is he still JLT bound?

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                  • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post
                    How big is their bet for the JLT?

                    What is he wins impressively on Sunday, is he still JLT bound?
                    He's jlt bound.
                    I wouldn't put anyone of backing arkle if that's what they think. But I'd take it with 365.
                    Last edited by Scooby91; 13 November 2018, 09:39 AM.
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                    • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post
                      How big is their bet for the JLT?

                      What is he wins impressively on Sunday, is he still JLT bound?
                      50p each way !.

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                      • They hardly need the money I'd imagine.

                        A bet on the JLT isn't going to stop them going for the Arkle if that's how NH sees it IMO.

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                        • Originally posted by Innoko View Post
                          They hardly need the money I'd imagine.

                          A bet on the JLT isn't going to stop them going for the Arkle if that's how NH sees it IMO.
                          Its plain to see if you look at the horse what his best trip will be. Their racing manager agrees the owners agree. All the hendo talk is because he's lacking an arkle contender the same owners have one they want to run in the arkle In Lough derg spirit.
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                          • If NJH feels strongly that the Arkle is the race for the horse, then that is where he will run, regardless of what the owners say or think.

                            Im a JLT backer, but this is a top class contest at the weekend, and if he wins well it will be a virtual certainty he will be Arkle bound for me.

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                            • Even if you look at his comments last year he said 2 mile horse is very sharp and quick. Henderson has made his mind up and you'd imagine he will get his way. I'm on for the JLT too.

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                              • Very much hoping to see him outpaced at the weekend by the likes of Lalor and DDS...

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