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Arkle 2019

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  • In a weak renewal, will it pay to just back the "best" horse? and isn't Lalor just the clear
    "best horse in the race"

    Grade 2 bumper winner (Aintree festival)
    Grade 1 novice hurdle winner (Aintree festival)
    Grade 2 novice chase winner (Course and distance)


    Nothing else has that kind of 'back-class' for want of a better phrase. I'm seeing him getting crabbed more and more and ultimately, I fancied him before all the good horses came out, and he's the only good'un left.


    I know others look better chasers and they've improved on thier bumper/hurdles form - I know that, but it's an angle that I haven't heard mentioned in his defense yet.
    Surely he is too short though, his last performance was blamed on the ground and it looks as though its going to be pretty soft on the Tuesday. If he runs like that, and there's a chance he will due to the ground, then he hasn't got a chance.
    Also if the ground wasnt the problem last time then you've got to hope he doesn't run as bad again for an unknown reason.
    With those question marks is 4/1 a decent price....I think its an awful price.

    Now CE isn't running, iv had a little dabble on hardline at small stakes just for the e/w value. I have no strong opinion other than to leave this race alone.

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    • Originally posted by sprintersacren View Post
      Surely he is too short though, his last performance was blamed on the ground and it looks as though its going to be pretty soft on the Tuesday. If he runs like that, and there's a chance he will due to the ground, then he hasn't got a chance.
      Also if the ground wasnt the problem last time then you've got to hope he doesn't run as bad again for an unknown reason.
      With those question marks is 4/1 a decent price....I think its an awful price.

      Now CE isn't running, iv had a little dabble on hardline at small stakes just for the e/w value. I have no strong opinion other than to leave this race alone.
      I dunno, is 4/1 too short about the best horse in the race, as the only course and distance winner too?


      I don't think it was ground, I think he was backed up too quickly.



      I'm already invested at 33/1 but just talking about most likely winners, I think he should be fav.

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      • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
        I dunno, is 4/1 too short about the best horse in the race, as the only course and distance winner too?


        I don't think it was ground, I think he was backed up too quickly.



        I'm already invested at 33/1 but just talking about most likely winners, I think he should be fav.
        Should be fav, but this weather/going is of concern.

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        • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
          Should be fav, but this weather/going is of concern.
          He did win a grade 1 on soft ground... so I'm not really worrying about the ground.

          Backed up too quickly makes more sense as an excuse than the ground, as a G1 winner?

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          • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
            He did win a grade 1 on soft ground... so I'm not really worrying about the ground.

            Backed up too quickly makes more sense as an excuse than the ground, as a G1 winner?
            More worried about connections withdrawing it tbh.

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            • After Le Richebourg and CE were taken out, I didn’t expect to have a decent bet on this race.

              But Glen Forsa is a cracking bet imo.

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              • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
                More worried about connections withdrawing it tbh.
                I'd say there is absolutely no chance of that.


                It would need to be heavy to justofy that decision?

                A grade 1 winner on soft, absolute no way.


                Plus if I was betting now it's not an issue as everyone is NRNB and this time tomorrow it's day of race markets anyway I assume?



                Won't help my 33/1 though haha

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                • Originally posted by Middle_Of_March View Post
                  After Le Richebourg and CE were taken out, I didn’t expect to have a decent bet on this race.

                  But Glen Forsa is a cracking bet imo.
                  I'm with you on this one, just can't see why people are saying he should be stepped up? Absolutely smashed Kalashnikov over 2m on soft so why should Cheltenham over 2 be a worry? Only worry would be whether Burke tries to make all on him and is then forced to go too fast too soon like SC and PM did last year.

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                  • I notice Paloma Blue is on the drift despite De Bromhead saying if it is soft (which it obviously will be) he goes for the Arkle. Why would you suddenly experiment with a new trip? The Arkle is sure to be a stamina test.

                    There was also talk at the Sandown preview of Monalee switching to the Gold Cup. Did anyone think he wanted an extra two furlongs in last year's RSA?

                    You really do have to wonder. Both of these decisions should be straightforward.

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                    • Originally posted by kinloch brae View Post
                      I notice Paloma Blue is on the drift despite De Bromhead saying if it is soft (which it obviously will be) he goes for the Arkle. Why would you suddenly experiment with a new trip? The Arkle is sure to be a stamina test.

                      There was also talk at the Sandown preview of Monalee switching to the Gold Cup. Did anyone think he wanted an extra two furlongs in last year's RSA?

                      You really do have to wonder. Both of these decisions should be straightforward.
                      I heard that Honeysuckle is being aimed at the Kings Stand...

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                      • Originally posted by Middle_Of_March View Post
                        After Le Richebourg and CE were taken out, I didn’t expect to have a decent bet on this race.

                        But Glen Forsa is a cracking bet imo.
                        Preach......

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                        • Couldn't back Glen Forsa after Henrietta's comments.

                          Anyone else not looking forward to this year's Arkle? Just can't get excited about it...

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                          • No as I’ve said before it would be a poor field for a Grand Annual.

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                            • Originally posted by Coneygme View Post
                              Couldn't back Glen Forsa after Henrietta's comments.

                              Anyone else not looking forward to this year's Arkle? Just can't get excited about it...
                              Originally posted by Stormez View Post
                              No as I’ve said before it would be a poor field for a Grand Annual.
                              Keep it simple.

                              Back the only grade 1 winning hurdler in the field

                              Lalor wins the Arkle.
                              Last edited by Kevloaf; 9 March 2019, 08:41 PM.

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                              • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                                Keep it simple.

                                Back the only grade 1 winner in the field

                                Lalor wins the Arkle.
                                Don't forget Hardline

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