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Arkle 2019

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  • Originally posted by Innoko View Post
    I can't help but laugh when NH says this old chestnut, just surprised he doesn't also mention Charli Parcs!
    Charli Parcs??? He sells fromage on the Rue de Sax

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    • Off to Plumpton monday to watch Kalashnikov. Acey Milan , Envoye special also running monday

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      • Originally posted by BigChaang View Post
        Off to Plumpton monday to watch Kalashnikov. Acey Milan , Envoye special also running monday
        Superb stuff to get those horses to Plumpton.

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        • If you had to pick from ones that have had a run..... what is the shortlist of just 3 for this race so far (this one won't cause much debate I wouldn't have thought!)

          Lalor - Can question the ones he beat, but the most visually impressive we've seen so far
          Mengli Khan - Only had Voix Du Reve to be more impressive than in Ireland, and was... hurdle form and better ground make him interesting
          Kalashnikov - Not a fan myself but of the ones we've seen, impossible to say he's not one of the best 3?
          Last edited by Kevloaf; 3 December 2018, 12:19 AM.

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          • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
            If you had to..... what is the shortlist of just 3 for this race so far (this one won't cause much debate I wouldn't have thought!)

            Lalor - Can question the ones he beat, but the most visually impressive we've seen so far
            Mengli Khan - Only had Voix Du Reve to be more impressive than in Ireland, and was... hurdle form and better ground make him interesting
            Kalashnikov - Not a fan myself but of the ones we've seen, impossible to say he's not one of the best 3?
            Pretty much spot on with what we have seen and I agree on that order as well. Lalor still my one with MK close in behind.

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            • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
              If you had to pick from ones that have had a run..... what is the shortlist of just 3 for this race so far (this one won't cause much debate I wouldn't have thought!)

              Lalor - Can question the ones he beat, but the most visually impressive we've seen so far
              Mengli Khan - Only had Voix Du Reve to be more impressive than in Ireland, and was... hurdle form and better ground make him interesting
              Kalashnikov - Not a fan myself but of the ones we've seen, impossible to say he's not one of the best 3?
              This would be my three as well

              My two antepost we’re Mengli Khan (20/1) and Kalashnikov (8/1) so I’m delighted so far

              Very tempted to back Lalor but may just do him in some multiples.

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              • I was impressed by that round of jumping by Kalashnikov

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                • Have added Kalashnikov to my AP bets now, looks to have some engine even though hes faced absolutely nothing to date. Would like to see him tested before Cheltenham but dont know whether that will happen

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                  • Hard to fault that performance jumping was improved and won as he liked. Still wouldn't want to back him at as short as 4-1 now.

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                    • Originally posted by taylorch1990 View Post
                      Hard to fault that performance jumping was improved and won as he liked. Still wouldn't want to back him at as short as 4-1 now.
                      I'd expect nothing less from a 1/7 Arkle fav in a race like that.

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                      • Impressive more jump experience in the bank

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                        • Did anyone watch that race? Thoughts on whether he might end up in the JLT?

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                          • Originally posted by bobbyvalentino View Post
                            Did anyone watch that race? Thoughts on whether he might end up in the JLT?
                            I'd say not. There was very early money (albeit not huge amounts) down for him on the exchanges for the Arkle, which made him the ante post favourite before any of the horses had run. This could well change of course, but from early movements I'd say no.

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                            • I watched it.
                              very nice jumping display. Travelled well. Won as he liked (as you would expect).
                              There was nothing in this race to support moving up for JLT.
                              As prep for the arkle (before moving up in grade) it was a nice stepping stone.

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                              • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
                                I'd say not. There was very early money (albeit not huge amounts) down for him on the exchanges for the Arkle, which made him the ante post favourite before any of the horses had run. This could well change of course, but from early movements I'd say no.
                                I know Amy Murphy stated the Arkle as her pre-season target, but it's not like she has horses to avoid and should run him where he has the best chance of winning. I'd be looking for clues in his running style to suggest a switcheroo may occur, although I see the firm i'd want to go with has already put him in at 10/1 which isn't big enough to tempt me.

                                Sounds like the Wayward Lad is next so that should give us some real idea

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