Arkle 2019

[Kevloaf]

Yeah it is too early to start predicting what Ruby will ride when neither have jumped a fence in public yet... I just like the angle of finding the "right" one and having an each way double.

I'd expect Ruby to place in both the Arkle and the JLT - and I want to be on the right side of his rides as soon as I can be. II know you don't like multiples but I find these to have lovely potential for a small outlay.

2015 - Un de Sceaux (1st) and Vautour (1st) (was easy to spot quite a way out)
2016 - Douvan (1st) and Black Hercules (1st) - was impossible to spot until a few days before!
2017 - ***Altior was an absolute obvious standout***(1st) and Yorkhill (1st) who avoided Altior IMO, was an easy double to place
2018 - Footpad (1st) and Invitation Only (PU) - was fairly clear cut from a way out?

I'm not saying that's a sensible bet each year, but it's something I've looked out for since it worked in 2015 and I will be again.

[Scooby91]

Yeah it is too early to start predicting what Ruby will ride when neither have jumped a fence in public yet... I just like the angle of finding the "right" one and having an each way double.

I'd expect Ruby to place in both the Arkle and the JLT - and I want to be on the right side of his rides as soon as I can be. II know you don't like multiples but I find these to have lovely potential for a small outlay.

2015 - Un de Sceaux (1st) and Vautour (1st) (was easy to spot quite a way out)
2016 - Douvan (1st) and Black Hercules (1st) - was impossible to spot until a few days before!
2017 - ***Altior was an absolute obvious standout***(1st) and Yorkhill (1st) who avoided Altior IMO, was an easy double to place
2018 - Footpad (1st) and Invitation Only (PU) - was fairly clear cut from a way out?

I'm not saying that's a sensible bet each year, but it's something I've looked out for since it worked in 2015 and I will be again.

2016 wasn't impossible if you followed PP in a couple of weeks out. . I had black Hercules 50s in singles but also an ew double on black Hercules 50s JLT shaneshill 33s RSA. Id have cried if the 2 days were the other way round as good old blaklion dug in, when shaneshill would have traded very short.

[Scooby91]

Yeah it is too early to start predicting what Ruby will ride when neither have jumped a fence in public yet... I just like the angle of finding the "right" one and having an each way double.

I'd expect Ruby to place in both the Arkle and the JLT - and I want to be on the right side of his rides as soon as I can be. II know you don't like multiples but I find these to have lovely potential for a small outlay.

2015 - Un de Sceaux (1st) and Vautour (1st) (was easy to spot quite a way out)
2016 - Douvan (1st) and Black Hercules (1st) - was impossible to spot until a few days before!
2017 - ***Altior was an absolute obvious standout***(1st) and Yorkhill (1st) who avoided Altior IMO, was an easy double to place
2018 - Footpad (1st) and Invitation Only (PU) - was fairly clear cut from a way out?

I'm not saying that's a sensible bet each year, but it's something I've looked out for since it worked in 2015 and I will be again.

I'm not putting up this one for the arkle but I'll give you your next st calvados . You might well get 100/1 and he'll give you a bit of fun to follow. Hes a legitimate case, If they place him similarly, he'll look a proper animal.
SULLY D'OC Aa

[Old Vic]

On basis Gigginstown horses generally make better chasers ...

https://www.racingpost.com/profile/horse/896945/mengli-khan/form

Interesting what Gordon said about his form vs Getabird before Supreme

"Mengli Khan [Sky Bet Supreme Novices' Hurdle] ran out at Leopardstown but his runs before that were very, very good. On form, I can't see how we can beat Getabird. I stood at the last hurdle that day and he impressed with the way he went by me.


"A few of the very shrewd judges are telling me that Getabird is better going right-handed, so that is one thing I am hoping might help me. But for me, he is a worthy favourite and will be very hard to beat.

[Scooby91]

On basis Gigginstown horses generally make better chasers ...

https://www.racingpost.com/profile/horse/896945/mengli-khan/form

Interesting what Gordon said about his form vs Getabird before Supreme

"Mengli Khan [Sky Bet Supreme Novices' Hurdle] ran out at Leopardstown but his runs before that were very, very good. On form, I can't see how we can beat Getabird. I stood at the last hurdle that day and he impressed with the way he went by me.


"A few of the very shrewd judges are telling me that Getabird is better going right-handed, so that is one thing I am hoping might help me. But for me, he is a worthy favourite and will be very hard to beat.

Mengli khan isn't your typical giggingstown horse. Iv took a chance on him at 20s on grounds of value, With a chance to cash.
Id be hopeful, without getting too excited on him. hopefully he wins effortlessly during the week.

[Can't Catch Me]

PP as low as 4/1 about Lalor now. That seems very short.

It could well be a case of them not rating the Irish challenge in this race much this year... they don't even have Cialos Emery in their market for the race.

[charlie]

PP as low as 4/1 about Lalor now. That seems very short.

It could well be a case of them not rating the Irish challenge in this race much this year... they don't even have Cialos Emery in their market for the race.

I'd say that price reflects the fact the Irish challenge is a relative unknown. We haven't see Mengli Khan, Cilaos Emery or Getabird over fences yet and you would assume those are the 'big three'.

[Kevloaf]

PP as low as 4/1 about Lalor now. That seems very short.

It could well be a case of them not rating the Irish challenge in this race much this year... they don't even have Cialos Emery in their market for the race.

They didn't have Footpad quoted before his chase debut either

[Innoko]

While I'm pretty sure there will be a strong enough Irish challenge, it's fair to say it's probably going to need to be if Lalor is to improve for the run.

On the face of it, Lalor isn't getting the credit he deserves, probably due to 'unfashionable' connections? And we just assume that Mullins will have a better one?

[Quevega]

I'm not putting up this one for the arkle but I'll give you your next st calvados . You might well get 100/1 and he'll give you a bit of fun to follow. Hes a legitimate case, If they place him similarly, he'll look a proper animal.
SULLY D'OC Aa

Is this priced up anywhere Scooby, I noticed it couple of weeks ago when it was entered up previously and thought it was interesting, plenty of experience already in France and he's entered it in a handicap at newbury friday and been allotted 136.

[Scooby91]

While I'm pretty sure there will be a strong enough Irish challenge, it's fair to say it's probably going to need to be if Lalor is to improve for the run.

On the face of it, Lalor isn't getting the credit he deserves, probably due to 'unfashionable' connections? And we just assume that Mullins will have a better one?

He's getting the credit. He's fav from 33s. And being mentioned everywhere along with his story.

[Scooby91]

Is this priced up anywhere Scooby, I noticed it couple of weeks ago when it was entered up previously and thought it was interesting, plenty of experience already in France and he's entered it in a handicap at newbury friday and been allotted 136.

Not a clue tbh. His wins are on the smaller tracks in France he stepped up 1 time and ran pretty well in 3rd against some nice ones. He's entered in a chase at Bangor too 2m4 so a step up in trip on past runs.

[Innoko]

He's getting the credit. He's fav from 33s. And being mentioned everywhere along with his story.

Sorry.. I meant on this forum.

Footpad went from 33's to single figures (as you obviously know) on the back of his first run. Yet we were all treating him as the second coming

[Scooby91]

Sorry.. I meant on this forum.

Footpad went from 33's to single figures (as you obviously know) on the back of his first run. Yet we were all treating him as the second coming

Apologies I misunderstood.

Because he was the 2nd coming. I got knocked when I put him up a few times if you look back.

[Quevega]

Not a clue tbh. His wins are on the smaller tracks in France he stepped up 1 time and ran pretty well in 3rd against some nice ones.

Noticed Nicholls has a French four yr old entered in same race at Newbury (given 137) Envoy Special.
Look like suspicious entries to me, just finding out where they are, before they place them.