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not just Santini, never worried about one horse especially this far out, just think theres many others gonna prove better than her
wouldn't discount her for four miler though,
The amateur jockey the trainer has used McParlan did well with Missed approach two years running.
can't see her priced up for that but think it would suit and she'd be one of highest rated with allowance.
Ms Parfois nearly pulled it off last year, off a lower rating
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LBAR now 14s for this after impressive performance today
She was good it would either be this or the jlt, she's far too strong a traveller for the 4 miler as we saw in the mares hurdle where she'd have been placed. (but for clouting the last and losing all momentum) That's very good form going into novice chase company. I won't be doubting her at all.
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She was good it would either be this or the jlt, she's far too strong a traveller for the 4 miler as we saw in the mares hurdle where she'd have been placed. (but for clouting the last and losing all momentum) That's very good form going into novice chase company. I won't be doubting her at all.
She'll ultimately come up short in any race against the boys in my opinion. She isn't a standout mare, she's a very good and likeable mare... plenty of races she'll do well in but I wouldn't have a win bet on her.
She'll ultimately come up short in any race against the boys in my opinion. She isn't a standout mare, she's a very good and likeable mare... plenty of races she'll do well in but I wouldn't have a win bet on her.
Who's the standout novices 2 1/2m? she's just beat the one convincingly that alot of people were backing.
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Who's the standout novices 2 1/2m? she's just beat the one convincingly that alot of people were backing.
That isn't how it works... the 'standouts' haven't run yet.
People backing Loistintranslation aren't expecting him to be at his best today are they?
I'd consider all of her back form and profile - I'd happily lay 14/1 for her to win any race at all at Cheltenham. (Unless they make a Mares Chase over 2m4f this season and I'd not bother laying it)
I’ve backed Lostintranslation and although I’d much rather he’d have won, I’m not giving up just yet either. He progressed as the season went on last year and I don’t think he’s the first horse to have an average debut this season, partly due to the weather. La Bague Au Roi on the other hand always goes well fresh and is certainly no mug.
That isn't how it works... the 'standouts' haven't run yet.
People backing Loistintranslation aren't expecting him to be at his best today are they?
I'd consider all of her back form and profile - I'd happily lay 14/1 for her to win any race at all at Cheltenham. (Unless they make a Mares Chase over 2m4f this season and I'd not bother laying it)
She's not 14/1 that was the 1st one to introduce her to the market. Tizzard dosent leave them spare of work. I genuinely don't know who the standout novices for the JLT are who haven't ran yet. Black op who's very beatable. Claimantakinforgan (ran) who I like but nobody else would have said he's a standout I wouldn't have thought. Getabird is 2nd in the betting. I'll be suprised if he's not operating over 2m . Messire des obeaux (should be 50s) he's no chance imo and he's a 3 miler anyway. Then you've got lostintranlation whos shes just beat, on the blind side (could be good) vision des flos(ran/ fell) And voix de reve etc...
I'm not backing her but
She has a credible chance.
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I’ve backed Lostintranslation and although I’d much rather he’d have won, I’m not giving up just yet either. He progressed as the season went on last year and I don’t think he’s the first horse to have an average debut this season, partly due to the weather. La Bague Au Roi on the other hand always goes well fresh and is certainly no mug.
Hed have bolted up last year against dynamite dollars on debut but for a horrendous mistake at the last where he was lucky to stay up.
I certainly wouldn't give up, hes a nice horse, he ran very credibly., they might even go different races. But a month down the line have that race again id be suprised if she diddnt beat him the same. My only point is I think she's a valid contender for the big races
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She's not 14/1 that was the 1st one to introduce her to the market. Tizzard dosent leave them spare of work. I genuinely don't know who the standout novices for the JLT are who haven't ran yet. Black op who's very beatable. Claimantakinforgan (ran) who I like but nobody else would have said he's a standout I wouldn't have thought. Getabird is 2nd in the betting. I'll be suprised if he's not operating over 2m . Messire des obeaux (should be 50s) he's no chance imo and he's a 3 miler anyway. Then you've got lostintranlation whos shes just beat, on the blind side (could be good) vision des flos(ran/ fell) And voix de reve etc...
I'm not backing her but
She has a credible chance.
Voix du reve
Cilaos emery (2m to me)
Getabird
Draconien
Coquin mans
Fabulous saga (Probably needs a drop in trip)
Next destination ( likely 3 miler)
Robin des foret (not good enough)
Bleu berry ?
Duc des genievre?
Plenty from your own mind there?
La Bague Au Roi won't be winning the JLT or RSA - she's not good enough.
If she ends up being better than Lostintranslation, then Lostintranslation won't be winning a JLT or RSA either.
La Bague Au Roi won't be winning the JLT or RSA - she's not good enough.
If she ends up being better than Lostintranslation, then Lostintranslation won't be winning a JLT or RSA either.
Mullins.*
Voix du reve
Cilaos emery (2m to me)
Getabird*
Draconien*
Coquin mans
Fabulous saga (Probably needs a drop in trip)*
Next destination ( likely 3 miler)
Robin des foret (not good enough)
Bleu berry ?
Duc des genievre?
Don't rate any of them personally apart from getabird/ cilaos emery (who in my mind are 2 milers)
And next destination (3 miler)
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If I may butt in. And repeat myself from earlier.
La Bague Au Roi has no chance in the JLT or RSA,
Gordon & Willie have at least half a dozen who will prove better, And then there's the other Irish Trainers on top of that. Not to mention Mr Henderson over here.
If they insist on going to cheltenham then she would have a better chance in the four miler IMO as the big gun trainers will tend not to send there strongest horses to that race.
She would have a good proven amateur jockey available I think - and the travelling thing can only ever be a positive, irrespective of the distance IMO. If you're of the opinion she won't relax and is a bit keen then it'll cost her over any distance, the trainer should be able to deal with that anyhow.
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