J.L.T Novices Chase 2019

[boopa]

I can see why Hardline is where he is. He's not flashy and he wears a hood. You can pick holes in it though. They have Duca De Thaix and Hardline on the same mark. DDT was beat by Us And Them and Jetz. Hardline beat them easily.

156p - WINTER ESCAPE - JLT
155 - MASTER DINO - x
154 - DYNAMITE DOLLARS - Arkle
153p - DELTA WORK - rsa
153p - SANTINI - rsa
152p - DEFI DU SEUIL - JLT
152p - TOPOFTHEGAME - RSA/JLT ?
152 - KNOCKNANUSS - Arkle
151p - LE RICHEBOURG - Arkle
151 - LALOR - Arkle
150p - GETABIRD - nr?
150p - LOSTINTRANSLATION - JLT
150 - BAGS GROOVE - nr?
149p - OK CORRAL - 4 miler
149p - VINNDICATION - JLT/RSA/NR?
148 - DUCA DE THAIX - Not good enough
148 - HARDLINE
148 - VOIX DU REVE - JLT?
147p - DROVERS LANE
147p - JERRYSBACK

I'm happy with 32/1 JLT and 65/1 Arkle for Hardline. He might find a few too good but his jumping will give him a chance.

[doctorwu]

I can see why Hardline is where he is. He's not flashy and he wears a hood. You can pick holes in it though. They have Duca De Thaix and Hardline on the same mark. DDT was beat by Us And Them and Jetz. Hardline beat them easily.

156p - WINTER ESCAPE - JLT
155 - MASTER DINO - x
154 - DYNAMITE DOLLARS - Arkle
153p - DELTA WORK - rsa
153p - SANTINI - rsa
152p - DEFI DU SEUIL - JLT
152p - TOPOFTHEGAME - RSA/JLT ?
152 - KNOCKNANUSS - Arkle
151p - LE RICHEBOURG - Arkle
151 - LALOR - Arkle
150p - GETABIRD - nr?
150p - LOSTINTRANSLATION - JLT
150 - BAGS GROOVE - nr?
149p - OK CORRAL - 4 miler
149p - VINNDICATION - JLT/RSA/NR?
148 - DUCA DE THAIX - Not good enough
148 - HARDLINE
148 - VOIX DU REVE - JLT?
147p - DROVERS LANE
147p - JERRYSBACK

I'm happy with 32/1 JLT and 65/1 Arkle for Hardline. He might find a few too good but his jumping will give him a chance.

Im with you boopa. Big fan of the horse. I'll be watching the Irish Arkle with interest as I'm still sure (hoping) the JLT is his race.

[Quevega]

I can see why Hardline is where he is. He's not flashy and he wears a hood. You can pick holes in it though. They have Duca De Thaix and Hardline on the same mark. DDT was beat by Us And Them and Jetz. Hardline beat them easily.

156p - WINTER ESCAPE - JLT
155 - MASTER DINO - x
154 - DYNAMITE DOLLARS - Arkle
153p - DELTA WORK - rsa
153p - SANTINI - rsa
152p - DEFI DU SEUIL - JLT
152p - TOPOFTHEGAME - RSA/JLT ?
152 - KNOCKNANUSS - Arkle
151p - LE RICHEBOURG - Arkle
151 - LALOR - Arkle
150p - GETABIRD - nr?
150p - LOSTINTRANSLATION - JLT
150 - BAGS GROOVE - nr?
149p - OK CORRAL - 4 miler
149p - VINNDICATION - JLT/RSA/NR?
148 - DUCA DE THAIX - Not good enough
148 - HARDLINE
148 - VOIX DU REVE - JLT?
147p - DROVERS LANE
147p - JERRYSBACK

I'm happy with 32/1 JLT and 65/1 Arkle for Hardline. He might find a few too good but his jumping will give him a chance.

I think DDT has clearly shown improved form once switched to handicaps and you could clearly see the way he was ridden early in the novice chase's that he was gaining experience.
Hardline is a nice horse but looks like a typical early season horse that's taken well to fences and picked up a few good prizes but probably lacks the scope to improve a great deal further. (not to say he won't though).
I'd doubt if either Hardline or DDT would be up for winning a competitive grade one. but you cannot be certain in this game.

[Kevloaf]

So La Bague Au Roi isn't there?!

Does anyone have access?

[boopa]

I think DDT has clearly shown improved form once switched to handicaps and you could clearly see the way he was ridden early in the novice chase's that he was gaining experience.
Hardline is a nice horse but looks like a typical early season horse that's taken well to fences and picked up a few good prizes but probably lacks the scope to improve a great deal further. (not to say he won't though).
I'd doubt if either Hardline or DDT would be up for winning a competitive grade one. but you cannot be certain in this game.

There's nothing about the race against Jetz that suggests they were running for a mark.

Winter Escape beat 145 rated Jetz 15L giving 7lbs. Hardline beat Jetz 26L. DDT was well held by Jetz. DDT hasn't magically improved going into a handicap he's just run against vastly inferior animals.

Hardline is just a better horse. He has barely had a tap yet.

[Quevega]

So La Bague Au Roi isn't there?!

Does anyone have access?

Think she's 146p - master rating
so weight adjustments for race conditions have to be added or taken away.
basically she's 153p in the real world

[Quevega]

There's nothing about the race against Jetz that suggests they were running for a mark.

Winter Escape beat 145 rated Jetz 15L giving 7lbs. Hardline beat Jetz 26L. DDT was well held by Jetz. DDT hasn't magically improved going into a handicap he's just run against vastly inferior animals.

Hardline is just a better horse. He has barely had a tap yet.

No, but won handicap off 133 after that then 143 after that and is now rated 151.
But I get what you're saying about distances beat etc, but it's not always that simple, as you'll know.
And he might not like getting tapped.he definitely didn't when he was hurdling.
Irish handicapper has DDt 151, Hardline 150.
But I can see your POV
There's better than these two I reckon, but I like them both, and they both travel and jump well and have gained good experience. Which gives them a chance in graded company if things fall for them.

[boopa]

Hardline runs in the Flogas. God that looks a hot race.

[ComplyOrDie]

Hardline runs in the Flogas. God that looks a hot race.

Definitely be JLT for him then.

[Quevega]

Hardline runs in the Flogas. God that looks a hot race.

surprised at that, he's barely ever gone beyond 2 miles, apart from last time (which may be his best form I suppose) but the flogas is full of stayers. He'll probably get a tap in that race though.
Where is gordon saying all this anyway ??

[boopa]

I'm surprised too he's their best option over 2m at least if he got outpaced they could step up.

It's been on RTV today.

[Quevega]

I'm surprised too he's their best option over 2m at least if he got outpaced they could step up.

It's been on RTV today.

cheers.....

[boopa]

Flogas will be the race of the season arguably better than anything we'll see at Cheltenham.

Delta Work
La Bague Au Roi
Chriss Dream
Mortal
Winter Escape
Hardline

[delsie777]

I'm surprised too he's their best option over 2m at least if he got outpaced they could step up.

It's been on RTV today.

Just to expand on that - GE suggested that Mengli Khan was his best hope over 2 miles and that he felt he underperformed over Christmas but 'has since come back to himself'. Said that he regarded Le Richebourg as the one to beat and Joseph said they were surprised he won so easily the last day but thought he had improved for the drop in trip. Sounds like they are both Arkle bound depending how things pan out at DRF

[Innoko]

Just to expand on that - GE suggested that Mengli Khan was his best hope over 2 miles and that he felt he underperformed over Christmas but 'has since come back to himself'. Said that he regarded Le Richebourg as the one to beat and Joseph said they were surprised he won so easily the last day but thought he had improved for the drop in trip. Sounds like they are both Arkle bound depending how things pan out at DRF

Also mentioned as an ex-flat, they can be in and out over fences...