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J.L.T Novices Chase 2019

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  • Originally posted by darlojim View Post
    Am i on my own in thinking LiT can reverse form with DDS? He wasnt the most fluent at the last 2 LTO and was gaining slowly on DDS up the hill, if he can put in a clear round like he did at cheltenham first time round the stiff finish will get his head back in front im sure of it.
    Of course he can. Defi got his ground last time. The better the ground the more chance lostintranslatiin has and vice versa. If they both have a clear round, it will be a good battle either way. Still all to play for with both.
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    • It will come down to how well they jump. LIT is a low efficient jumper but he can make the odd mistake. DDS jumps big not as efficient. You'd imagine Barry will hold onto him for as long as he can and do him for toe but a small mistake when it matters and LIT will be hard to peg back.

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      • With Real Steel cut to 12/1 with PP/BF/Sly today, knowing there have been people interviewing connections at the yard, I've had another 1 pt e/w at 25/1 with the 1 firm still at that price.

        If it ends up as the Mullins first string I think that'll be a good each way price, and they pushed Camila De Cotte back out, and left Voix Du Reve unchanged... so I'm taking that as a sign.

        I see he's been debated in the ante-post thread (been working my way UP not DOWN) ...

        Tis is purely a play to try and get ahead of the market for this race - as I dhave no strong opinion on the front 2 being better than each other, and the Irish horses record is worth taking note of even if it's not particuarly relevant this year....
        Last edited by Kevloaf; 6 February 2019, 10:38 PM.

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        • Originally posted by delsie777 View Post
          Taken another 'Elliott flyer' and gone in for Champagne Classic at 40/1 eachway. As stated on another thread, I can see Hardline going to the 4 Miler and am therefore willing to gamble on CC coming here - at the price. Ran a great race on the comeback - just tired late but was tanking for most of the race and I think the intermediate trip will suit. Another who could end up single figures if he turns up in a small field.
          Interesting that the 40/1 still holding up but Laddys now 16/1 without NRNB

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          • COD'S QUOTE
            Thoroughly exposed over 2m, yeah, for the top level, he's 150 in Ireland, he won't be well handicapped in the UK. needs to go up in trip now.

            Real Steel has beat nothing. 125 & 132 rated animals, not even close to the level required. Paloma Blue won't get near the Arkle so even if he was upsides it isn't like he got within 4 3/4 lengths of Le Richebourg, like VDR has.

            I wouldn't fancy Paloma Blue for the Arkle, but he has a big engine. Personally think PB was going to hold him that day, but it's still good form. His last run he beat them 10Ls easy, so it's a very fair performance no? On RPRs, he's only 4 off VDR's best run...

            Adding into that, Ruby will ride him...he's going to be backed just on the back of that.

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            • If this race was tomorrow who do you think is realistically going to be lining up? I reckon they’ll be 8-9 runners in it this year

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              • From the ante post list I think it will be DDS, LiT, Kalas, Mr Whip, Real S, VDR, MK & Kildi and possibly Hardline & Jetz. I can’t see any other horses getting involved because of the top 2 in the market and the distance.

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                • Originally posted by jack1092 View Post
                  COD'S QUOTE
                  Thoroughly exposed over 2m, yeah, for the top level, he's 150 in Ireland, he won't be well handicapped in the UK. needs to go up in trip now.

                  Real Steel has beat nothing. 125 & 132 rated animals, not even close to the level required. Paloma Blue won't get near the Arkle so even if he was upsides it isn't like he got within 4 3/4 lengths of Le Richebourg, like VDR has.

                  I wouldn't fancy Paloma Blue for the Arkle, but he has a big engine. Personally think PB was going to hold him that day, but it's still good form. His last run he beat them 10Ls easy, so it's a very fair performance no? On RPRs, he's only 4 off VDR's best run...

                  Adding into that, Ruby will ride him...he's going to be backed just on the back of that.
                  I'm not dead against Real Steel, I really liked the horse last season, although he never came quite as good as I thought he was going to be.

                  I currently have the top 2 in the betting covered at bigger prices than they are, as well as VDR, who I have been on from day 1, I am contemplating adding RS to the list as he is still 20/1 and that can be boosted too, but first I want to re-watch his 2 chase runs.

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                  • Is Mr Whipped going to turn up here ?

                    Not sure on Kalashnikov coming here, hard to tell with hardline and MK - both haven’t looked great lately

                    Also could through champagne classic potentially ?

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                    • Originally posted by thistlecracker View Post
                      Is Mr Whipped going to turn up here ?

                      Not sure on Kalashnikov coming here, hard to tell with hardline and MK - both haven’t looked great lately

                      Also could through champagne classic potentially ?
                      Mr whipped.
                      No. If he makes it to chelt will be the 4 miler. If not then Aintree
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                      • 'They have some lovely horses and I think Lust For Glory has a great chance in the Mares Novice and Lough Derg Spirit in the Close Brothers. River Wylde and Mr Whipped are also on their way back and I’m looking forward to taking them to Aintree all being well.'

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                        • That's interesting. We assuming Mr Whipped misses Cheltenham also?

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                          • it would appear so on that comment.

                            This race needs runners. Assuming Topofthegame and Kalashnikov stay in there intended races there is value to be had. My Shortlist would consist of.

                            Real Steel - 20-1
                            Camelia De Cotte - 25-1
                            Champagne Classic - 40-1

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                            • It looks like Real Steel will be Mullins runner and he'll be overbet. I'm on 60/1 but don't particularly like the horse.

                              I'd like to see Champagne Classic here but the 4 miler is more likely. Hardline the most likely runner for Giggi. Mengli Khan doesn't even deserve a run at the festival.

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                              • Originally posted by boopa View Post
                                It looks like Real Steel will be Mullins runner and he'll be overbet. I'm on 60/1 but don't particularly like the horse.

                                I'd like to see Champagne Classic here but the 4 miler is more likely. Hardline the most likely runner for Giggi. Mengli Khan doesn't even deserve a run at the festival.
                                Rumour has it that it could be the other way round. And I am banking on that being correct - at the prices.

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