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J.L.T Novices Chase 2019

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  • France’s multiple champion trainer told Sky Sports Racing: “The next step is Sandown, then the middle distance (JLT) at Cheltenham.

    “In my opinion, the Arkle could be too fast for him. He used to be a bit keen at home, but I’ve worked a lot on relaxing him – so now he won’t understand if we ask him to do that.

    “We’ve worked many months to have a horse able to manage his potential himself – so it would be silly to try to do the reverse.

    “I will enter him anyway in the Arkle, but the target is the middle distance. That’s the logical (step).”

    Whichever is Master Dino’s Cheltenham target, after his successful British debut in a race touted as one of the best in Plumpton’s history, he is sure to command huge respect.

    Macaire is delighted his Grade One-winning hurdler adapted so well in a different country, after just one chase start in his homeland.

    “I’m very pleased, because it was a test today – he doesn’t speak English, only French!” he added.

    “He’s learning, but it’s the first time for him.

    “The ground is rarely deep at Cheltenham, so this experience will be very useful – because he’s shown he’s able to follow a good pace but also has stamina.

    “He stays, and was not tired at all after the race – which is a good sign.”

    Winning jockey Jacob, the owners’ retained rider standing in for Master Dino’s injured regular James Reveley, had to get serious as Knocknanuss tried to pile on the pressure again at the end of the back straight.

    But by the line, the winner’s superiority was very evident.

    “Jamie Moore went very quick up front (on Knocknanuss) – (but) this is a good horse,” said Jacob.

    “I just said to Guillaume and Anthony (Bromley) everything was against him today – track, the ground – it was all against him, and he still pulled up on top.

    “That’s phase one over with now, and we can look forward to the Scilly Isles – which I think he will be much more suited to.

    “The whole experience is what we wanted. He’s passed it.”

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    • It's great to have such open, honest information to be able to use.

      I don't believe any trainers or jockeys mislead, but the culture lends itself to being cautious and it takes away from the whole sport in my ever so humble opinion.

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      • I am clearly missing something here and am failing to understand why everyone is going so overboard about Master Dino; he managed to beat a non-stayer (who is 20/1 for the Arkle) by 7 lengths in receipt of 5 pounds. We are all supposed to believe that 'everything (ground, course) was against him today' and that he will show his true quality at Sandown and Cheltenham. While that's entirely possible I have to believe that the dearth of quality in this race is making people overreact to any decent performance. If she turned up, in receipt of 7 pounds, then La Bague Au Roi ( not a horse i have a great affinity for - not sure why) would have much stronger claims in my opinion. We will see what the Scilly isles brings but 6/1 is way too short right now.

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        • Something I’ve said before (about Mares in general) but all of LBR form is in receipt of 7lbs so “in receipt of 7lbs” is quite a moot point

          Dino looked like he would improve with a bit further and we should see that at Sandown with a longer run in

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          • Originally posted by Bayoffreedom View Post
            I am clearly missing something here and am failing to understand why everyone is going so overboard about Master Dino; he managed to beat a non-stayer (who is 20/1 for the Arkle) by 7 lengths in receipt of 5 pounds. We are all supposed to believe that 'everything (ground, course) was against him today' and that he will show his true quality at Sandown and Cheltenham. While that's entirely possible I have to believe that the dearth of quality in this race is making people overreact to any decent performance. If she turned up, in receipt of 7 pounds, then La Bague Au Roi ( not a horse i have a great affinity for - not sure why) would have much stronger claims in my opinion. We will see what the Scilly isles brings but 6/1 is way too short right now.
            A brilliant juvenile in France comes over here after winning his only chase start over there and beats a decent yardstick easily. He breeezed past Knockanauss today before putting the race to bed in the matter of strides. He looked like a high class horse today and based on what he did as their champion juvenile. The trainer believes he’s better than Terrefort who was second last year and we know the JLT is the target. He’s the definition of could be anything.

            On all of that.. plus the fact it’s a poor division, suggests 6/1 is possibly still value. I definitely disagree with you that it’s too short. I’m very very tempted to top up my 16s at 6/1 in the next few days.

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            • Originally posted by Bayoffreedom View Post
              I am clearly missing something here and am failing to understand why everyone is going so overboard about Master Dino; he managed to beat a non-stayer (who is 20/1 for the Arkle) by 7 lengths in receipt of 5 pounds. We are all supposed to believe that 'everything (ground, course) was against him today' and that he will show his true quality at Sandown and Cheltenham. While that's entirely possible I have to believe that the dearth of quality in this race is making people overreact to any decent performance. If she turned up, in receipt of 7 pounds, then La Bague Au Roi ( not a horse i have a great affinity for - not sure why) would have much stronger claims in my opinion. We will see what the Scilly isles brings but 6/1 is way too short right now.
              Agree with most of that except 3 things -
              labelling the moore horse a non stayer is probably notfair,
              and it's probably fair to say the french horse met vastly different conditions.
              and It just looked different class didn't it ?

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              • Originally posted by Middle_Of_March View Post
                A brilliant juvenile in France comes over here after winning his only chase start over there and beats a decent yardstick easily. He breeezed past Knockanauss today before putting the race to bed in the matter of strides. He looked like a high class horse today and based on what he did as their champion juvenile. The trainer believes he’s better than Terrefort who was second last year and we know the JLT is the target. He’s the definition of could be anything.

                On all of that.. plus the fact it’s a poor division, suggests 6/1 is possibly still value. I definitely disagree with you that it’s too short. I’m very very tempted to top up my 16s at 6/1 in the next few days.
                I agree with this. I still think 6/1 is value on all known form about the horse, and whilst I probably won't be going in anymore on him for singles I am happy to add him in to each way multi's from here on until at least Sandown.

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                • Knocknanuss is a point winner with plenty stamina in the pedigree. Just got beat by a superior horse.

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                  • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
                    I agree with this. I still think 6/1 is value on all known form about the horse, and whilst I probably won't be going in anymore on him for singles I am happy to add him in to each way multi's from here on until at least Sandown.
                    I think theres a slight difference, as myself and you can see the big picture as we know the horse. Where to some he might have just come out of the clouds as if that was his 1st run today. So I can understand it may seem to be hype.

                    Which it deffinately isn't. I know both of us added him to the markets and you backed him too, straight away upon entries.
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                    • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
                      I think theres a slight difference, as myself and you can see the big picture as we know the horse. Where to some he might have just come out of the clouds as if that was his 1st run today. So I can understand it may seem to be hype.

                      Which it deffinately isn't. I know both of us added him to the markets and you backed him too, straight away upon entries.
                      For what it’s worth, I knew him from France too. Not that I watch much french racing but I do keep enough of an eye on it to know the ones to watch should they come over here. Today went as expected.

                      I don’t look at entries though so I wouldn’t have spotted his entry until you mentioned it last week. Upon which, I got stuck into him for the JLT.

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                      • Originally posted by Middle_Of_March View Post
                        For what it’s worth, I knew him from France too. Not that I watch much french racing but I do keep enough of an eye on it to know the ones to watch should they come over here. Today went as expected.

                        I don’t look at entries though so I wouldn’t have spotted his entry until you mentioned it last week. Upon which, I got stuck into him for the JLT.
                        I was annoyed to be honest at the price. Someone, (poss cod) added it straight away to 365 at 16s. Could have been very different if added 1st elsewhere. But. who knows.

                        Anyway iv a lump at 18s so can't be dissapointed.
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                        • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
                          I was annoyed to be honest at the price. Someone, (poss cod) added it straight away to 365 at 16s. Could have been very different if added 1st elsewhere. But. who knows.

                          Anyway iv a lump at 18s so can't be dissapointed.
                          Not me, I was a bit behind with this one, despite backing him as soon as the entry was out, but the price was already out, I only asked WH for an 'any race' price as hadn't seen the JLT plans at this point (though would have always made sense) which unfortunately was only 14's and like you I was somewhat underwhelmed, clearly some homework done on him prior to pricing this one up.

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                          • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
                            I was annoyed to be honest at the price. Someone, (poss cod) added it straight away to 365 at 16s. Could have been very different if added 1st elsewhere. But. who knows.

                            Anyway iv a lump at 18s so can't be dissapointed.
                            As soon as someone (think it was you), mentioned it was entered, I went to back him. The price at that point for the JLT was already up.

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                            • You'll be even more annyoyed if you can't get on Bet365 account.
                              I asked for a price for king george earlier with B365.

                              66-1 ?

                              Am I missing something.
                              I know it's a long way off but 66-1

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                              • Originally posted by quevega View Post
                                You'll be even more annyoyed if you can't get on Bet365 account.
                                I asked for a price for king george earlier with B365.

                                66-1 ?

                                Am I missing something.
                                I know it's a long way off but 66-1
                                Very interesting shout. That would be the race aswell.
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