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Upping the ANTE vs Kevloaf 2021

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  • Just caught up with this weeks episode, and got to remark on how much Gavin Lynch has come on in front of the camera compared to the early seasons.

    Seems really confident now & really articulates himself well, whereas years ago he seemed to answer DJ’s questions as quickly as he could & pass the buck back to DJ.

    Agree though about his selections so far this year, yet to cover himself in glory. Plenty of time for that though!

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    • Originally posted by Spectre View Post

      On her line though Buzz she'd finish ahead of him in the Stayers getting her allowance. It's probably too literal a line, particularly with her jumping, but she went on 'Stayers Watch' with me as soon as the pair of them finished first and second in the Ces.
      She went on my stayers list too. That said like everyone I have Buzz many lengths ahead on the jumping front but perhaps as equally important Buzz was going away again at the line and whilst I would need to watch the ces again my initial feeling at the time was that the gap would have grown and grown the further they went. Put it another way if the ces had been over 3 miles I think the winning margin would have been greater and Buzz jumps better too. I don’t think he out speeded BV I think he outstayed her.

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      • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post

        She went on my stayers list too. That said like everyone I have Buzz many lengths ahead on the jumping front but perhaps as equally important Buzz was going away again at the line and whilst I would need to watch the ces again my initial feeling at the time was that the gap would have grown and grown the further they went. Put it another way if the ces had been over 3 miles I think the winning margin would have been greater and Buzz jumps better too. I don’t think he out speeded BV I think he outstayed her.
        BV won’t go anywhere near the Stayers, IMHO.

        A step up to 2M4F for the Mares Hurdle maybe, but to be frank the less hurdles she has to jump the better.

        Her best RPR is only 142, so she has some catching up to do quickly over Hurdles
        Last edited by Saxon Warrior; 24 November 2021, 04:40 PM.
        "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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        • There's only 2 hurdles less in the Mares Hurdle (10), compared to the Stayers (12)
          Given the Stayers is on the new course, which she has already won on (albeit fortunately)
          And importantly would be a much more favourable finish for a horse who has jumping issues.

          I think they be sticking to Mares races with her
          But I could see why they may be tempted that way depending on how her first couple of hurdle runs go this season.
          In all likelihood her jumping would end up costing her less in the Stayers than it would in the Mares hurdle.

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          • Originally posted by jono View Post
            There's only 2 hurdles less in the Mares Hurdle (10), compared to the Stayers (12)
            Given the Stayers is on the new course, which she has already won on (albeit fortunately)
            And importantly would be a much more favourable finish for a horse who has jumping issues.

            I think they be sticking to Mares races with her
            But I could see why they may be tempted that way depending on how her first couple of hurdle runs go this season.
            In all likelihood her jumping would end up costing her less in the Stayers than it would in the Mares hurdle.
            Two more plus a mile more than she won over.

            I think Willie has plans on the Flat in the summer (maybe Royal Ascot) and really would be surprised if he took her through a Stayers campaign beforehand.
            "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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            • Out of sheer boredom shall we try and predict what their picks with be today?
              Last edited by HoldenTheReins; 30 November 2021, 10:16 AM.

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              • Mighty Potter or Impervious, or even both?

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                • Although he said it in his Racing Post column Gavin might put up Elimay should he think it will run in the rearranged mares chase at Aintree this weekend.

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                  • I reckon DJ will put up Elle Est Belle

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                    • DJ - Ontheropes (NHC)
                      Gavin - Gaillard du Mesnil (RSA)

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                      • Wouldn't be surprised to see DJ put up Facile Vega

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                        • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post
                          DJ - Ontheropes (NHC)
                          Gavin - Gaillard du Mesnil (RSA)
                          DJ already put up TBO for the NHC so doubt he’ll go in again on the race and GL is very sweet on GDC for the BANC and may have already put him up.

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                          • Originally posted by BookieBasher View Post

                            DJ already put up TBO for the NHC so doubt he’ll go in again on the race and GL is very sweet on GDC for the BANC and may have already put him up.
                            Good points It seems we have a NR

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                            • I think GL will go Energumene for the QMCC prior to his run at Cork this weekend

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                              • Gavin- something short that has a good chance but not very imaginative
                                DJ- something that's 50-1 and has no chance

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