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Mares Novice Hurdle 2021

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  • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
    25/1 for Hook Up a bit of an over reaction from Betfred perhaps?
    can be worth a play at that price but personally I won’t be taking it and don’t believe she will be the winner in March after that performance

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    • Originally posted by jono View Post
      Winner was impressive there. The mistake by Hook Up unlikely to have effected the result. I certainly wouldn’t be giving up on her though.

      Strongest piece of form we have in the race so far.
      The improvement Mullins can get in these Mares come the festival means I wouldn’t rule out the placing being reversed at Cheltenham and a drop back in trip.

      Solerina mares novice at the same track should hopefully tell us more later this month. I imagine the winner today may well run again, given her liking for the track and ability for a quick turnaround.
      Peter Fahey has just said Solerina is where she'll go next.

      Said the syndicate would decide where she'd run, good mares programme in Ireland and festival both mentioned.

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      • Originally posted by archie View Post
        It will be interesting to hear the trainer's view but...

        She's now won over 2m4f and 2m2f on testing going and her bumper win was in similar conditions. She's also a Flemensfirth so wouldn't be a pedigree natural for 2 miles over hurdles.
        Put me off too.
        Wouldn't rule out though as she looked strong.
        But would maybe need a very strong pace and softer, or something a bit quicker may do her.
        FWIW.
        i like Echoes in Rain for this race, as she showed stamina last time and has clearly got decent speed from her flat from, and pedigree.

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        • Originally posted by archie View Post
          It will be interesting to hear the trainer's view but...

          She's now won over 2m4f and 2m2f on testing going and her bumper win was in similar conditions. She's also a Flemensfirth so wouldn't be a pedigree natural for 2 miles over hurdles.
          I consider that Mares Hurdle similar to the Bumper.... it's over 2 miles but all sorts can win it as ability will trump distance for the Grade 1 Novice Mares.

          Obviously I wouldn't ignore the distances, but I think it's a 'division' that's not deep so it's less important than any of the others...

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          • The other play could be the 20s twar for Glens of Antrim. 25s biggest for this trainer indicated a drop in trip and covers county and novice hurdles too.she is one I like a lot

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            • Elliot's juvenile has been added to this market and been backed.
              Which is interesting.
              Rivere detel

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              • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post
                The other play could be the 20s twar for Glens of Antrim. 25s biggest for this trainer indicated a drop in trip and covers county and novice hurdles too.she is one I like a lot
                Yeah I like that, I was thinking about that earlier and got distracted.

                Might be a decent NRNB price for the handicaps though before committing to it?

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                • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                  Yeah I like that, I was thinking about that earlier and got distracted.

                  Might be a decent NRNB price for the handicaps though before committing to it?
                  Completely agree ... alas not an option for me. I’ve run out of firms and the few I have left either don’t do nrnb or do it very late. If you put a gun to my head I’d say county is the most likely destination.

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                  • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                    I consider that Mares Hurdle similar to the Bumper.... it's over 2 miles but all sorts can win it as ability will trump distance for the Grade 1 Novice Mares.

                    Obviously I wouldn't ignore the distances, but I think it's a 'division' that's not deep so it's less important than any of the others...
                    It's complicated by the EBF Mares Novice Final at Fairyhouse at Easter. Reasons for going to Fairyhouse rather than Cheltenham (races only 17 days apart this year):
                    - Fairyhouse is 2m4f.
                    - Fairyhouse is a G1 and worth more.
                    - Fairyhouse is where her form is.

                    Against this you have to consider that it's a syndicate horse and Fahey seems to be happy to go with their choice. That choice may be coloured by the fact that it's most unlikely that they'll be able to come over and cheer her on at Cheltenham.

                    In other news, Fahey also said that Gypsy Island is only at the pre-training stage. Although they hope to get her back this season, it seems to me that Cheltenham would come too soon.

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                    • Won't be looking beyond Gauloise now. Can't think that Mullins has a better one at home at this stage apart from the doubtful Shewearsitwell. Won't back anything else in the race.

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                      • If the winner were mine, she would 100% be going to the grade 1 at the Easter festival. I’m inclined to agree with Lobos r.e. Gauloise. I don’t have much inclination to back anything not trained by Willie for this antepost if I’m honest.

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                        • Originally posted by archie View Post

                          It's complicated by the EBF Mares Novice Final at Fairyhouse at Easter. Reasons for going to Fairyhouse rather than Cheltenham (races only 17 days apart this year):
                          - Fairyhouse is 2m4f.
                          - Fairyhouse is a G1 and worth more.
                          - Fairyhouse is where her form is.

                          Against this you have to consider that it's a syndicate horse and Fahey seems to be happy to go with their choice. That choice may be coloured by the fact that it's most unlikely that they'll be able to come over and cheer her on at Cheltenham.

                          In other news, Fahey also said that Gypsy Island is only at the pre-training stage. Although they hope to get her back this season, it seems to me that Cheltenham would come too soon.
                          All valid points. I'd still take 25/1 about her knowing that though on balance. Can make a decision about her closer to the Solerina and lay some off if I'm getting wobbly.

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                          • Originally posted by archie View Post

                            It's complicated by the EBF Mares Novice Final at Fairyhouse at Easter. Reasons for going to Fairyhouse rather than Cheltenham (races only 17 days apart this year):
                            - Fairyhouse is 2m4f.
                            - Fairyhouse is a G1 and worth more.
                            - Fairyhouse is where her form is.

                            Against this you have to consider that it's a syndicate horse and Fahey seems to be happy to go with their choice. That choice may be coloured by the fact that it's most unlikely that they'll be able to come over and cheer her on at Cheltenham.

                            In other news, Fahey also said that Gypsy Island is only at the pre-training stage. Although they hope to get her back this season, it seems to me that Cheltenham would come too soon.
                            I remember reading about some bloke that ate Christmas dinner every day of his life.nutritionally he was getting everything he needed but shit it must have been dull.

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                            • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                              Won't be looking beyond Gauloise now. Can't think that Mullins has a better one at home at this stage apart from the doubtful Shewearsitwell. Won't back anything else in the race.
                              Is shewaearsitwell doubtful now. Last I seen was Ruby on the road to Cheltenham saying she was out with a niggle but she’ll be back for Cheltenham no problem. Him and Lydia both seemed to really like her for it too. I would still think she’s Willie’s best.

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                              • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                                All valid points. I'd still take 25/1 about her knowing that though on balance. Can make a decision about her closer to the Solerina and lay some off if I'm getting wobbly.
                                25/1 is a fair enough price. Anyone considering taking less than half that ought to consider the full picture.

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