Mares Novice Hurdle 2021

[Run4Home]

Where do you have Finest Evermore going instead?

Zoe and Gypsy I think he means

[charlie]

Off the top of my head we would have seen 3 of the previous winners by now (this season or season before) ; the other 2 being Laurina in December and Limini in Jan.

Limini - January
Laurina - 14th December
Concertista - 19th November
Let's Dance - 19th November
Eglantine Du Seuil - ran in August and September, then won in March

[Run4Home]

Limini - January
Laurina - 14th December
Concertista - 19th November
Let's Dance - 19th November
Eglantine Du Seuil - ran in August and September, then won in March

Hard to get away from SWIW on what she has done on the clock and visually.
Interesting how she gets on this weekend if the likes of Ballyadam turn up, to beat her with the allowance will take a monster performance if she runs to her previous.

[ComplyOrDie]

Off the top of my head we would have seen 3 of the previous winners by now (this season or season before) ; the other 2 being Laurina in December and Limini in Jan.

I think there is such a small amount of data that it probably renders these sorts of things useless, for now (I don't mean the work you've put in, I mean the actual stat). There have only been 5 runnings of the race.

There have been just as many winners of the race to have started their hurdling campaign in August (like SWIW did) as there have been winners of the race starting their campaigns in December or January. Starting off in November (Gjoumi, Hook Up & Gauloise all hold entries this week) is the strongest trend, but even so, it is massively flawed by the lack of data available.

[Eggs]

Glens of Antrim an interesting runner tomorrow for WPM.

.....80-1 to win today & at the Festival with Hills.

[Lobos]

Few of Willies entered next week

• Hook Up
• Gauloise
• Gjoumi

Along with SWIW in the Royal Bond

Gaulouise and Gjoumi both declared in different races at Thurles on Thursday.

[Spectre]

Gauloise is the one I'm particularly interested in. It looks as though she has a penalty kick if she's as good as hoped though.

[darlojim]

Gypsy Island not mentioned in Faheys stable tour - likely not good news you would think

https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/...TABLETOUR_2411

It's annoying that trainers/owners/stable staff involved aren't open more about when horses are still injured or if they won't be seen again. There's a lot of people out there who would like to know their current wellbeing not just for betting purposes. Real shame because she looked to have a big future ahead of her.

[Kevloaf]

It's annoying that trainers/owners/stable staff involved aren't open more about when horses are still injured or if they won't be seen again. There's a lot of people out there who would like to know their current wellbeing not just for betting purposes. Real shame because she looked to have a big future ahead of her.

Yeah that is an odd.

Some football managers do it regarding their injured players but they at least get questioned on it and the reporters, report that the manager didn't answer or avoided it.

In racing, we just get silence.

[archie]

It's annoying that trainers/owners/stable staff involved aren't open more about when horses are still injured or if they won't be seen again. There's a lot of people out there who would like to know their current wellbeing not just for betting purposes. Real shame because she looked to have a big future ahead of her.

You could try contacting Fahey or Donn McClean if it's that urgent.

As an owner, I don't give a flying ferret about punters who have taken a view on no information. However, I do like to keep people up to date if I'm asked a question or where the last information might be seen as no longer current. It's why I tried to be straight about Robin De Carlow earlier in the year.

[Kevloaf]

You could try contacting Fahey or Donn McClean if it's that urgent.

As an owner, I don't give a flying f*ck about punters who have taken a view on no information. However, I do like to keep people up to date if I'm asked a question or where the last information might be seen as no longer current. It's why I tried to be straight about Robin De Carlow earlier in the year.

Is it the fans job to do the job of the media?

It's misleading to withhold information on what is one of your (if not the) most high profile horse.

Nice to know you don't give a flying f*ck, even with that attitude though, if you were being interviewed, would you have bothered to mention the horse? I think you would...

[Lobos]

You could try contacting Fahey or Donn McClean if it's that urgent.

As an owner, I don't give a flying ferret about punters who have taken a view on no information. However, I do like to keep people up to date if I'm asked a question or where the last information might be seen as no longer current. It's why I tried to be straight about Robin De Carlow earlier in the year.

How is Robin Arch ? Clearly her beating Put The Kettle on easily into 2nd stands out a bit now ! Is she likely to go chasing when back to full fitness?

[archie]

Is it the fans job to do the job of the media?

It's misleading to withhold information on what is one of your (if not the) most high profile horse.

Nice to know you don't give a flying f*ck, even with that attitude though, if you were being interviewed, would you have bothered to mention the horse? I think you would...

1. If you're a serious punter you don't rely on the media. These guys are nearly all on twitter.

2. It is not misleading to withhold information. Not answering a non-existent question is withholding nothing. Many syndicates have a confidentiality agreement which is why I'm careful about what I say. With JP, Fahey might be under instructions but who knows.

3. Most of these stable tours are based on an agreed list of horses submitted by the journalist.

4. If I was being interviewed, I'd probably just answer the questions posed. Just like I do on here.

[archie]

How is Robin Arch ? Clearly her beating Put The Kettle on easily into 2nd stands out a bit now ! Is she likely to go chasing when back to full fitness?

Robin has just resumed ridden work after (hopefully) recovering from a hoof injury. Willie said second half of the season in the stable tour so you'd have thought that Cheltenham might come too soon*.

* Before anyone starts about 'misleading', this is purely a personal opinion.

[Kevloaf]

1. If you're a serious punter you don't rely on the media. These guys are nearly all on twitter.

2. It is not misleading to withhold information. Not answering a non-existent question is withholding nothing. Many syndicates have a confidentiality agreement which is why I'm careful about what I say. With JP, Fahey might be under instructions but who knows.

3. Most of these stable tours are based on an agreed list of horses submitted by the journalist.

4. If I was being interviewed, I'd probably just answer the questions posed. Just like I do on here.

1. Why would only serious punters be highlighted there? What if you don't punt and are just a massive fan of the sport? What if you're a casual punter? What if you just enjoy the game? My point was it's the job of the media doing a stable tour, to ask the questions and report it as it is.

2. Whether you like it or not, it is misleading if they're purposefully keeping the information out of the public domain. It's fine to do that, but in that instance, the people 'in the know' are using that information for their own gain. Nothing stopping them doing that, but that is misleading isn't it? Maybe another term may sit more comfortably with you? I'm not trying to cause offense.

3. Journalist should be more competent then, and if they've not asked about Gypsy Island that'd be madness? If they did ask, all I'm saying is report what was said (or not said!) "Didn't want to discuss", "made no comment" - that would be in line with other sports and isn't an unreasonable request. No need to be so clock-and-dagger about it all?

4. I think if Kemboy got inured, you'd bring it up before somebody asked you directly about how Kemboy was....but maybe you wouldn't. Disappointing if that is the case. Just like your comment about not giving a flying f*ck about punters.