Main FJ festival yankee - owner charlie

[Kevloaf]

I'd be keen to avoid COC at the current prices though.

Both Josies Orders and Tiger Roll will be no pushovers, there are other dangers too, but just to go over it again:

COC - Course form - 3rd, 7th, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 5th, 1st
Festival form - 7th, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 1st
Cross Country - 5th, 1st

JO - Course form - 22nd, 1st, 1st, 1st, 3rd
Festival form - 22nd, 1st
Cross Country - U, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 3rd, 2nd

Tiger Roll - Course form - 1st, 1st, 13th, 3rd, 1st, 5th
Festival form - 1st, 13th, 1st
Cross Country - 5th

I am unsure what sort of stats there are for runs between races for this particular race but Tiger Roll is coming back off a layoff of 90+ days, and personally, although I suspect him to run a fair race, do feel this could be more a GN prep over anything else.

I stated somewhere very early on last year that I would split stakes between COC & JO, and tbh that is still how I see this race.

On a line through Auvergnat you can't see JO and COC as equals? Plus Josies Orders "festival 1st" was actually a 2nd?
They'd be my negatives for him albeit I don't disagree with what you're saying overall.

[ComplyOrDie]

On a line through Auvergnat you can't see JO and COC as equals? Plus Josies Orders "festival 1st" was actually a 2nd?
They'd be my negatives for him albeit I don't disagree with what you're saying overall.

I see JO as COC biggest danger is what I am saying Kev, that said, it probably isn't rocket science given the market prices! Unsure about Tiger Roll though.

Think the money for JO last couple of weeks was reminiscent of the money that came for COC last season for this race. It wouldn't surprise me if JO beat COC, but I, personally, am still very much behind COC as my number 1 for this race.

[charlie]

Is it worth having an ew and a win yankee here because there will be more selections available and prices may vary?

Good question. Lets see what people on the forum think

[Istabraq]

Personally I wouldn't be using Auvergnat as a yardstick, rarely completes a XC race without either hitting the deck or making mistake(s) that could see his part company with his pilot, when he puts it all together he's a serious player in this sphere but he's probably only every done that twice so reading form literally may not stack up...

[jono]

He has loads of supporters doesn't he. Going off the XC thread:

Kevloaf
Vautour
Star Of A Gunner
ryanh97
CauseofCauses (shocker)
KingSprinterSacre
FaugheenTheMachine
Garrison Savannah
Rhinestone_Cowboy
ComplyOrDie
Faugheen_Machine
Leman14
donka
MTR
Istabraq
Geordieboy83
Robbante

Ahem...I think you'll find a certain post by me on the 19th March 2017 on p3 of the antepost 2018 bets stating this...

Cause of Causes - Cross Country - 10/1

Completely got him wrong this race. 'Only 9' which compared to others in the division is young / on par. Josies Orders was my best fancy of the festival last year before getting injured but at the same age, with injury to comeback from i'm wary of his chances at least for now and there's a 0% reason why you'd back JO until next Winter before the Cross Country races kick in. Auvergnant the other for Bolger will improve being young for this sphere but I see nothing from this years race to be able to beat CoC again. Can see Elliott keeping him to these races for the next 2-3 years alongside nationals. Don't see any other race they'd go for at the festival and his festival record is ridiculous. Josies Orders was 4/1 after last years race. Big price for me...

Before all you lot jumped on the bandwagon...

[Rhinestone_Cowboy]

I pride myself as a wagon jumper of the highest order...haha!! And on that note I'd like put forward the following for this:

Elegant Escape in the 4 miler or the RSA
Calet Mad in the Pertempts
The Storyteller JLT

[charlie]

Ahem...I think you'll find a certain post by me on the 19th March 2017 on p3 of the antepost 2018 bets stating this...



Before all you lot jumped on the bandwagon...

Jono is now captain of the FJ COC fan club!

[Kevloaf]

Jono is now captain of the FJ COC fan club!

I heard a rumour he was crying about being left out.



Hahaha Rhinestone that made me laugh a lot. Top selections, well done jono, billy and scooby for those

[Rhinestone_Cowboy]

I heard a rumour he was crying about being left out.



Hahaha Rhinestone that made me laugh a lot. Top selections, well done jono, billy and scooby for those

Kev, nothing personal for not including any members of the 'Kevloaf trixie' (BVD, CoC & OD) just don't like backing horses when the prices have been cut significantly and I'm already on

[Kevloaf]

Kev, nothing personal for not including any members of the 'Kevloaf trixie' (BVD, CoC & OD) just don't like backing horses when the prices have been cut significantly and I'm already on

I didn't take it personally, genuinly found it funny, not in a sarcastic way!

I'm on the same bandwagons .... I reckon I am king wagon jumper.... you'd do well to find a horse that I haven't backed

[Kevloaf]

Kev, nothing personal for not including any members of the 'Kevloaf trixie' (BVD, CoC & OD) just don't like backing horses when the prices have been cut significantly and I'm already on

That'd be a life changing amount.:o

[Rhinestone_Cowboy]

I didn't take it personally, genuinly found it funny, not in a sarcastic way!

I'm on the same bandwagons .... I reckon I am king wagon jumper.... you'd do well to find a horse that I haven't backed

haha... realise my comment sounded more serious than was intended - should have used more emojis (where is the winky face??) as I was chuckling as I was typing. Have been conservative with my multi's (so won't be life changing) but if the Kevloaf trixie was to land I'm sure it will be my biggest return of the week by some distance, and so will definitely owe you half a pint of something . Just looking through my early AP bets I notice I also put the Kevloaf trixie with Arsenal to win the Premier League... what a waste of wagon jumping that was!

[Kevloaf]

haha... realise my comment sounded more serious than was intended - should have used more emojis (where is the winky face??) as I was chuckling as I was typing. Have been conservative with my multi's (so won't be life changing) but if the Kevloaf trixie was to land I'm sure it will be my biggest return of the week by some distance, and so will definitely owe you half a pint of something . Just looking through my early AP bets I notice I also put the Kevloaf trixie with Arsenal to win the Premier League... what a waste of wagon jumping that was!

Arsenal?!

You'd have needed Brave Inca, Well Chief, Hardy Eustace and Best Mate running for you last time they were a decent bet

[charlie]

I pride myself as a wagon jumper of the highest order...haha!! And on that note I'd like put forward the following for this:

Elegant Escape in the 4 miler or the RSA
Calet Mad in the Pertempts
The Storyteller JLT

Thanks Rhinestone. EE seems popular on other threads. Do we know if he is going 4 miler yet?

[Rhinestone_Cowboy]

Thanks Rhinestone. EE seems popular on other threads. Do we know if he is going 4 miler yet?

No we don't, still very much in the balance, I have it down as 70% RSA 30% 4 miler, there's a few of us following this so it will soon be posted on here once it is known or strongly indicated. The original fancy of Jono's that many of us latched onto was for the 4 miler, I know many are less enthused about his chances in the RSA, although it would likely mean twice the price.