Cheltenham 2019 Ante-Post bets

[CUEMYCARD]

Cheers Scooby , top man.

[billymag]

Bought by Tony Bloom

[somer1]

Energumene

Im on with skybet any race at 20/1

[ComplyOrDie]

Not sure if he is high on anyone's lists but Elgin is out for the season according to Alan King.

[ComplyOrDie]

A few have mentioned Blackbow for the Supreme on here already and tonight I have taken the plunge. Same sire as Champagne Fever a positive, not usually a fan of the festivals previous bumper runners but feel vibes were strong enough on him prior to it and will likely be better for a hurdle too.

[PitLad]

I agree ComplyOrDie, from the Bumper last March the 2 I took out of it are Blackbow and Felix Desjy.
Both travelled like good horses but didn't quite get home as too keen early doors.
However with some more experience and some hurdles in front of them both, I expect both to improve and stay at 2m so I've backed both of them for the Supreme.

[jkite16]

I'm looking forward to seeing when Envoi Allen comes out, taken on by Gordon Elliot following his impressive ptp win, he was highly recommended by Colin Bowe (who also had Samcro prior to Elliot).

I would like to see him come out and attack the 2m division, but its a guessing game at the moment. 14/1 Any Race for a horse who hasn't been seen on track is a little ridiculous, I was expected bigger than 20's.

Has anyone had any information on Envoi Allen and potential routes?

*PTP Footage here if anyone is interested - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HB0Aa7-ruw

[Folski]

Was looking last night the following are horses to win at the festival having ran in the bumper since 2010.

2010 - Cue Card (1), Al Ferof (2)
2011 - Cinders and Ashes (5)
2012 - Champagne Fever (1), The New One (6), Jezki (8)
2014 - Black Hercules (4), Kilultagh Vic (6)
2015 - Supasundae (6)

Not exactly a great strike rate.

[ComplyOrDie]

Was looking last night the following are horses to win at the festival having ran in the bumper since 2010.

2010 - Cue Card (1), Al Ferof (2)
2011 - Cinders and Ashes (5)
2012 - Champagne Fever (1), Jezki (8)
2014 - Black Hercules (4)
2015 - Supasundae (6)

Not exactly a great strike rate.

Yeah, happens every year. Even worse for the 2016 & 2017 lots, no festival wins this year from them!

[Istabraq]

Was looking last night the following are horses to win at the festival having ran in the bumper since 2010.

2010 - Cue Card (1), Al Ferof (2)
2011 - Cinders and Ashes (5)
2012 - Champagne Fever (1), Jezki (8)
2014 - Black Hercules (4)
2015 - Supasundae (6)

Not exactly a great strike rate.

Kilultagh Vic came out of Silver Concorde's bumper and won the following year, but I take your point.
Plenty of good horses come from the race but haven't (yet) gone onto winning at the festival, though I always think stayers are more likely to come from the race

[Folski]

Kilultagh Vic came out of Silver Concorde's bumper and won the following year, but I take your point.
Plenty of good horses come from the race but haven't (yet) gone onto winning at the festival, though I always think stayers are more likely to come from the race

Apologies, I did actually spot him as well but was half asleep when I was writing it.

Your point about stayers is interesting as none of the winners won over 2m5f at the Festival.

[Istabraq]

Apologies, I did actually spot him as well but was half asleep when I was writing it.

Your point about stayers is interesting as none of the winners won over 2m5f at the Festival.

Just realised you missed The New One too.
Reason I checked was I remember Champagne Fever's bumper and down the field there was Many Clouds who of course proved himself as one of the best stayers of modern times, and found TNO.
Jezki came from that race too and although winning a Champion hurdle he proved his stamina in winning the top 3m race at Punchestown later in life

[Folski]

Just realised you missed The New One too.
Reason I checked was I remember Champagne Fever's bumper and down the field there was Many Clouds who of course proved himself as one of the best stayers of modern times, and found TNO.
Jezki came from that race too and although winning a Champion hurdle he proved his stamina in winning the top 3m race at Punchestown later in life

I agree, I think all successful bumper horses are ultimately stayers but it's interesting that they aren't doing it at the festival.

[ComplyOrDie]

Just realised you missed The New One too.
Reason I checked was I remember Champagne Fever's bumper and down the field there was Many Clouds who of course proved himself as one of the best stayers of modern times, and found TNO.
Jezki came from that race too and although winning a Champion hurdle he proved his stamina in winning the top 3m race at Punchestown later in life

That was likely the last top quality bumper we had. As of yet the 4 before that have failed to a large number of 'stars', however it would probably be wise not to judge last years (2017) lot until some of them see a fence, if they haven't already. 2016 however, was seemingly a pretty average bunch at best.

[Istabraq]

I still think the 2017 race will show itself to be a decent renewal, not helped by the sad death of the winner of course but I still think the likes of Next Destination, Claimantakingforgan and Western Ryder will prove themselves to be good animals.