Cheltenham 2019 Ante-Post bets

[Rhinestone_Cowboy]

I believe this guy put up some good antepost ones last year and thought this was worth a post (a good number of the Cheltenham ones have already been mentioned on here):

https://jumpsmanracing.wordpress.com/2018/08/27/long-range-antepost-punts/

[BigChaang]

Interesting read there R.C. , thanks for sharing that.

[PitLad]

I'm been all over SAMCRO for the Arkle in the past month or so, I really thought they'd go that 2m chase route.
Not decision made yet but looking at the comments I'd say it's 60/40 he goes for the Champion Hurdle.
So with this in mind - I'm thinking about taking the plunge on LAURINA in the Arkle.
Willie has said several times she's a proper chasing sort, she is speedy, Fest form and not sure if Willie has anything else for this race jumping out at me, no keen on Getabird.
Thoughts ??

[Middle_Of_March]

I'm been all over SAMCRO for the Arkle in the past month or so, I really thought they'd go that 2m chase route.
Not decision made yet but looking at the comments I'd say it's 60/40 he goes for the Champion Hurdle.
So with this in mind - I'm thinking about taking the plunge on LAURINA in the Arkle.
Willie has said several times she's a proper chasing sort, she is speedy, Fest form and not sure if Willie has anything else for this race jumping out at me, no keen on Getabird.
Thoughts ??

I’m on her for the Arkle at 14s already.

The thought of her attacking her fences at speed in an Arkle is racing purity. I can imagine her being aimed at it and going off very short.

[archie]

As is normal for the RP, the decision 'in the next couple of weeks' about Samcro is a complete misrepresentation of the quote from O'Leary.
8/1 on a horse that is '50:50' for the race is effectively 3/1 without taking into account any other reason for it being a non-runner? Absolutely fine for building your own book on a race but madness otherwise 6 months ahead of time.

[Kevloaf]

I'm been all over SAMCRO for the Arkle in the past month or so, I really thought they'd go that 2m chase route.
Not decision made yet but looking at the comments I'd say it's 60/40 he goes for the Champion Hurdle.
So with this in mind - I'm thinking about taking the plunge on LAURINA in the Arkle.
Willie has said several times she's a proper chasing sort, she is speedy, Fest form and not sure if Willie has anything else for this race jumping out at me, no keen on Getabird.
Thoughts ??

I’m on her for the Arkle at 14s already.

The thought of her attacking her fences at speed in an Arkle is racing purity. I can imagine her being aimed at it and going off very short.

I like her at 14/1 as a small speculative punt but no reason money should be going down about a horse without a certain target this far out unless its a wild price. I have put up a 'related' multiple earlier in this thread (or on the site somwhere!) with Laurina in.

Fair play to billymag once again who never seems to get them wrong in terms of targets. Always take into account what he says, and I will have to hold my hands up and admit I was wrong (again) if they do stick to hurdles.

[Kevloaf]

As is normal for the RP, the decision 'in the next couple of weeks' about Samcro is a complete misrepresentation of the quote from O'Leary.
8/1 on a horse that is '50:50' for the race is effectively 3/1 without taking into account any other reason for it being a non-runner? Absolutely fine for building your own book on a race but madness otherwise 6 months ahead of time.

This is a very good point.

and I'd add.... even if they do confirm Samcro as staying over hurdles, how much shorter will he be? He can't go shorter than Buveuir D'air, so you can almost guarentee 4/1 - I'd assume 5 will be readily available for a while too. I don't want my money lost on non runners where the price isn't a big enough discrepancy for it to have been a worthwhile punt.

Samcro may get declared as going hurdling, and the /1 will be long gone - however I think he'll still be 5/1 .... so for the risk of the non runner because of my own fault, I don't think thats a big enough price yet....

He's one for the magical 'free bets' if you can be bothered to have saved them up on him....

[Istabraq]

Not easy to predict at this stage but who are the possible 2020 Giggs Gold Cup horses ?
They have an obsession with staying chases and will be plotting a route for one/some of theirs at this stage, if it's not Samcro then who ?
Obviously they have a stack of horses but how many of those we've seen are Gold Cup potential in 18 months ?
Delta Work ?
If they don't think any of the current hurdlers have the ability/potential for a Gold Cup then Samcro will, in my opinion, go chasing this season....

[Faugheen_Machine]

Not easy to predict at this stage but who are the possible 2020 Giggs Gold Cup horses ?
They have an obsession with staying chases and will be plotting a route for one/some of theirs at this stage, if it's not Samcro then who ?
Obviously they have a stack of horses but how many of those we've seen are Gold Cup potential in 18 months ?
Delta Work ?
If they don't think any of the current hurdlers have the ability/potential for a Gold Cup then Samcro will, in my opinion, go chasing this season....

There aren't any that spring to my mind and that's the reason I still think it's odds on that he goes chasing.

[ryanh97]

Looking at a trixie with a tenner free bet from last night, gonna have Santini for the RSA, Laurina for the Arkle, any other suggestions. Pretty limited for markets as Betway don't have many priced up. Managed to get them to get me a price on Laurina but not many more than that

[somer1]

How can Samcro be a gold cup horse as never jumped a fence or run over 3m. Give it time please

[Istabraq]

How can Samcro be a gold cup horse as never jumped a fence or run over 3m. Give it time please

Giggs buy every horse to win a Gold Cup or National, they’ve made no secret of that over the years and having won a 3m heavy ground PTP there is no doubt, in my mind, that the eventual target for Samcro is the blue ribband.
Whether that’s after a Champion Hurdle I have no idea, but most top chasers only spend one season hurdling and it’s my hunch he’ll start this season over the big obstacles.
I’ve been wrong plenty of times before though...

[Hurricane fly]

There aren't any that spring to my mind and that's the reason I still think it's odds on that he goes chasing.

Blow by Blow, Dortmund Park and Champagne Classic would be the most likely outside of Samcro for 2020

[Middle_Of_March]

Looking at a trixie with a tenner free bet from last night, gonna have Santini for the RSA, Laurina for the Arkle, any other suggestions. Pretty limited for markets as Betway don't have many priced up. Managed to get them to get me a price on Laurina but not many more than that

Assuming that’s the Betway offer from the United/Spurs game, they don’t let Yankees/Trixies allowed for the free bet. I tried yesterday and they only allowed the treble.

[billymag]

Not convinced Laurina is Arkle bound