Cheltenham 2019 Ante-Post bets

[BigChaang]

Got very similar Kev , L.15 for me , so added Melon @ 8-1 ch. hdl

[SeanRock]

I can't find anything at all I want to back today (Shergar Cup day)... so instead

EW Trixie with Ladbrokes:
1637/1

Topofthegame 25/1
Penhill 8/1
Presenting Percy 6/1

Just had a little flutter on something similar Kev (wanted to get the mad monkey Labaik into one of my multiples however)

Labaik 33/1
Topofthegame 25/1
Penhill 8/1

Boosted to 10,000/1

Very speculative but all have essential course form and the talent to go very close on the day if they make it to the starting post!

[ComplyOrDie]

Hey guys,

It's that time already, I know some of you guys have been contributing since this years festival and some very good thoughts/opinions already, of which has got me having a look at the early markets.

Just wondered if anyone knows the likely route for Next Destination this season, has anything been said about chasing? And how confident are we that chasing is the route he goes? Because I think he could be a dark horse for the Champion Hurdle.

Similarly campaigned to Faugheen, before he reverted back to 2m for the Champion Hurdle, I think the general consensus is that the Ballymore was a classier race than the Supreme, in which case support for Summerville Boy, as many have said on here, would mean ND shouldn't be written off, should he go down this route.

Generally looked a stayer, but his turn off foot over the shortest distance he raced over last season was phenomenal, albeit against fairly weak opposition, though Paloma Blue was in the line up that day, this was also his biggest winning distance of all the races hes contested last season. I can see him adopting the same tactics as Faugheen, going off in front and using that turn of foot at the bottom of the hill to put the race to bed. Willie may also run Melon, as the pace ND sets up would suit him too, so could be double handed against BD, what with the novice chase department looking hot this coming season too.

Edit: The argument for Topofthegame has got me running to back him too, very solid, and the thoughts of the trainer and the jockeys who have ridden him to date is very positive also.

[Kevloaf]

Welcome back CoD

An interesting theory with Next Destination. I've got him down as going chasing myself. Too short to back for the RSA at this stage.

If he was to go hurdling and they say he's going for the CH< despite the pace he did show in some of his races, the way he was outpaced down the back at Cheltenham in the Ballymore would give me nightmares if he was carrying my money. The fact he got 3rd in that then stepped up in trip to 3m at Punchestown and beat the Albert Bartlett winner (Kilbricken Storm) and the Pemtemps winner (Delta Work)

Mid-division, slight mistake in 5th at 6th, took closer order at 9th, 4th after 4 out, close up when slight mistake next, driven to challenge on terms into straight, led narrowly from last and kept on well under pressure run-in, all out (op 11/8)

would certainly say to me he improved for the step up in trip.
I was actually incredibly keen for him to run in the Albert Bartlett as he was a big winner for me in that, so perhaps I am biased with a precinceived opinion of him, but the result at Punchestoown solidified what I thought about him pre-cheltenham. He's a player in staying chases for me this season, but I haven't backed him at his price.

[ComplyOrDie]

Welcome back CoD

An interesting theory with Next Destination. I've got him down as going chasing myself. Too short to back for the RSA at this stage.

If he was to go hurdling and they say he's going for the CH< despite the pace he did show in some of his races, the way he was outpaced down the back at Cheltenham in the Ballymore would give me nightmares if he was carrying my money. The fact he got 3rd in that then stepped up in trip to 3m at Punchestown and beat the Albert Bartlett winner (Kilbricken Storm) and the Pemtemps winner (Delta Work) would certainly say to me he improved for the step up in trip.
I was actually incredibly keen for him to run in the Albert Bartlett as he was a big winner for me in that, so perhaps I am biased with a precinceived opinion of him, but the result at Punchestoown solidified what I thought about him pre-cheltenham. He's a player in staying chases for me this season, but I haven't backed him at his price.

Thanks Kev. I too was thinking chasing for him initially and don't get me wrong, that must be the favoured route still, but had a longer think about it and re-watched his races, and thought it wouldn't be beyond Willie to run him another season over hurdles, like Melon, dropped back in trip and make the most of his stamina and turn of foot by doing things from the front.

A friend requested prices and Skybet have gone 33's, think he is 12/1 top price 'any race' which isn't enough for me should he go chasing as the chasing department looks incredibly competitive this coming season. I'd rather have a pop @ 33's for the CH at this moment in time, though as we have found out before with Mullins horses, literally anything is possible!!

[Middle_Of_March]

Hey guys,

It's that time already, I know some of you guys have been contributing since this years festival and some very good thoughts/opinions already, of which has got me having a look at the early markets.

Just wondered if anyone knows the likely route for Next Destination this season, has anything been said about chasing? And how confident are we that chasing is the route he goes? Because I think he could be a dark horse for the Champion Hurdle.

Similarly campaigned to Faugheen, before he reverted back to 2m for the Champion Hurdle, I think the general consensus is that the Ballymore was a classier race than the Supreme, in which case support for Summerville Boy, as many have said on here, would mean ND shouldn't be written off, should he go down this route.

Generally looked a stayer, but his turn off foot over the shortest distance he raced over last season was phenomenal, albeit against fairly weak opposition, though Paloma Blue was in the line up that day, this was also his biggest winning distance of all the races hes contested last season. I can see him adopting the same tactics as Faugheen, going off in front and using that turn of foot at the bottom of the hill to put the race to bed. Willie may also run Melon, as the pace ND sets up would suit him too, so could be double handed against BD, what with the novice chase department looking hot this coming season too.

Edit: The argument for Topofthegame has got me running to back him too, very solid, and the thoughts of the trainer and the jockeys who have ridden him to date is very positive also.

Good to see you back COD

I’m a very big fan of Next Destination and maintain he should’ve run (and won) the Albert Bartlett last year - though I did think Cracking smart would overturn the form if they’d have clashed over 3m.

I’m on Next destination for any race and also the RSA as he seems the Mullins type to me.

I’d be absolutely staggered if he runs in the Champion Hurdle let alone wins it. He screams 3 miles to me.

Have to agree about the novice chasers this year being a top bunch. I think it’ll be a very interesting season for all three of the big Cheltenham novice chases. Even the NH Chase could have an above average field I’d say.

Lots to look forward to

[ComplyOrDie]

Good to see you back COD

I’m a very big fan of Next Destination and maintain he should’ve run (and won) the Albert Bartlett last year - though I did think Cracking smart would overturn the form if they’d have clashed over 3m.

I’m on Next destination for any race and also the RSA as he seems the Mullins type to me.

I’d be absolutely staggered if he runs in the Champion Hurdle let alone wins it. He screams 3 miles to me.

Have to agree about the novice chasers this year being a top bunch. I think it’ll be a very interesting season for all three of the big Cheltenham novice chases. Even the NH Chase could have an above average field I’d say.

Lots to look forward to

Good to see you back COD

I’m a very big fan of Next Destination and maintain he should’ve run (and won) the Albert Bartlett last year - though I did think Cracking smart would overturn the form if they’d have clashed over 3m.

I’m on Next destination for any race and also the RSA as he seems the Mullins type to me.

I’d be absolutely staggered if he runs in the Champion Hurdle let alone wins it. He screams 3 miles to me.

Have to agree about the novice chasers this year being a top bunch. I think it’ll be a very interesting season for all three of the big Cheltenham novice chases. Even the NH Chase could have an above average field I’d say.

Lots to look forward to

Thanks MOM.

Yeah, I must admit, as per what seems the general consensus, I expect ND to go chasing, however, something is bringing me back to the Champion Hurdle, probably because his turn of foot reminds me so much of Faugheen up the hill. I do honestly think more positive tactics would see ND in better light over a shorter distance, whether that be hurdling or chasing.

I had noted his 3m Grade 1 win, but for me that was Grade 1 in name only, time will tell but I feel the 3m hurdling division of last season was a pretty average standard.

One thing I don't believe he is, is slow, he was 3 lengths off the ill fated Fayonagh in the champion bumper in 2017 and everyone was ready to back her until they could no longer before she unfortunately lost her life.

His pedigree does say to me he needs a trip, however.

So tough at this very early stage, but I've taken a small amount of the 33's for the Champion Hurdle at this stage, as I won't be backing him over any of the chase races at his current prices.

[billymag]

Might Bite very likely to take on the Betfair Chase this year on way to his main first target of The King George, I can only find 14/1 for him to win the £1mil bonus which is not terribly exciting was hoping for at least 20/1. They intend on running him more this year and intend to also get a prep into him after the KG and before another go at the Gold Cup (dependent on fitness).

[Istabraq]

Might Bite very likely to take on the Betfair Chase this year on way to his main first target of The King George, I can only find 14/1 for him to win the £1mil bonus which is not terribly exciting was hoping for at least 20/1. They intend on running him more this year and intend to also get a prep into him after the KG and before another go at the Gold Cup (dependent on fitness).

I think if one of those was to escape him it would be the Betfair Chase.
Every chance of a Haydock bog which plays into the hands of a Bristol de Mai or Native River...

[Kevloaf]

Might Bite very likely to take on the Betfair Chase this year on way to his main first target of The King George, I can only find 14/1 for him to win the £1mil bonus which is not terribly exciting was hoping for at least 20/1. They intend on running him more this year and intend to also get a prep into him after the KG and before another go at the Gold Cup (dependent on fitness).

14/1 is not a nice price at all unfortunately.

If he was 6/4 for all three at SP you'd get 14.67/1

I did consider backing him for the triple crown as he'd want to be winning the KG for me to have a chance at winning the Gold Cup.. but that price is skinny enough.

If Might Bite doesn't win at Kempton on Boxing Day, I'd give less chance of reversing the placings with whoever did beat him (all ifs buts and maybes but that is how I feel at the moment)

[Istabraq]

Worth noting that a Might Bite King George/Gold Cup double can be backed at 23.5/1 (if bookies will allow the combination)

[billymag]

If they took the double and a few firms would, they would be within their rights under their Terms and Conditions to refuse payout on that double, however if the bet lost they wouldnt pay you back a refund. Unfortunately 14/1 makes little appeal, if anyone sees any bigger prices Id be grateful for a heads up, cheers.

[Marty973]

Does anyone know of anywhere where you can get a list of horses in training sorted by trainer? For example, you can search all the horse Willie Mullins has in training?

[somer1]

Does anyone know of anywhere where you can get a list of horses in training sorted by trainer? For example, you can search all the horse Willie Mullins has in training?

Have a look on his website as i think David Pipe has a bit on horses in training.

[Marty973]

Have a look on his website as i think David Pipe has a bit on horses in training.

Couldn’t find a list of all horses when I looked but I’ll double check.