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Ultima Business Solutions Handicap Chase 2018

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  • Talked myself into taking Cogry @ 25s. Hate watching him; makes it look like such hard work but he certainly ticks many boxes

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    • Going with Beware The Bear and Ramses De Teillee (I have backed Singlefarmpayment steadily AP). Happy heavy ground will present no issues and despite being tempted with Yala Enki and Vintage Clouds, this surely comes too soon for YE and Vintage Clouds spends his life in 2nd, but will love the ground.

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      • I’ve topped up on Singlefarmpayment. Just really like his claims and think this is an easier race to win than last year. Will like the ground and will be right there surely barring a fall

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        • Any SFP backers worried about the form of Tom George?

          4 runners in the last 2 weeks beat 30L 58L 49L & 54L.

          No winner in 28 runs or 34 days.

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          • Originally posted by Folski View Post
            Any SFP backers worried about the form of Tom George?

            4 runners in the last 2 weeks beat 30L 58L 49L & 54L.

            No winner in 28 runs or 34 days.
            I am now... he’s got a smallish stable and not many of those have gone off short prices

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            • Originally posted by Robbante View Post
              I am now... he’s got a smallish stable and not many of those have gone off short prices
              Too tired for debate anymore. We shall know by 3pm tomorrow.. if he doesn’t go close then it’s fair to suspect something might be amiss. Almost won it last year, not gone up much, and this to me a more winnable race

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              • Originally posted by Folski View Post
                Any SFP backers worried about the form of Tom George?

                4 runners in the last 2 weeks beat 30L 58L 49L & 54L.

                No winner in 28 runs or 34 days.
                I mentioned this a couple of weeks ago folski, when Wild West Wind went out like a light after coming to win his race. The stable seemed to lose momentum early in the new year and it's difficult to back anything with huge confidence, hopefully this is the week they get their mojo back

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                • Originally posted by Robbante View Post
                  I’ve topped up on Singlefarmpayment. Just really like his claims and think this is an easier race to win than last year. Will like the ground and will be right there surely barring a fall
                  Agreed. He ticks all the boxes. He loves Cheltenham and is only 3lb higher than last year where he came second by a nostril hair.

                  He is the one to beat for me and I've lumped om him.

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                  • Originally posted by Thomas Shelby View Post
                    Agreed. He ticks all the boxes. He loves Cheltenham and is only 3lb higher than last year where he came second by a nostril hair.

                    He is the one to beat for me and I've lumped om him.
                    He didn't seem to enjoy it too much last time when he was backed from something like 25/1-15/2. The vast majority of his form is on much better ground as well.

                    I don't think he will get a better chance than last year.

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                    • I think SFP will love the ground. His run back in Jan ‘16 at cheltenham on heavy ground oozed class and he’s still only 8. Expecting a top performance

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                      • Originally posted by Robbante View Post
                        I think SFP will love the ground. His run back in Jan ‘16 at cheltenham on heavy ground oozed class and he’s still only 8. Expecting a top performance
                        Yes, me too and as you rightly say this year's race looks slightly easier than last time.

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                        • Originally posted by Robbante View Post
                          I think SFP will love the ground. His run back in Jan ‘16 at cheltenham on heavy ground oozed class and he’s still only 8. Expecting a top performance
                          To be fair he was off 125 that day.

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                          • i've finally come round to backing something in this.

                            Minella Daddy 18/1.

                            The horse was 2nd in a listed handicap on soft ground over 3m at Ascot off 142, was subsequently raised to 145 he runs tomorrow off 139.

                            After that 2nd he was tried in G1 company (Kauto Star Novices Chase) and I can only assume the horse got injured as he was pulled up and didn't run for over a year or maybe it was a case of he tried to go with Might Bite around Kempton.

                            The horse came back in Jan and ran very well to 3 out in a good handicap chase, he got very tired in straight which is understandable and stopped to a near walk on way home. The horse came on some amount for the race and ran very well last time, he surely has more improvement in him for that race.

                            A Flemenisfirth out of an Old Vic mare ground and stamina should be no problem, only 3 horses carrying less weight.

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                            • Very surprised with the lack of love for Ramses De Teilles on here. I would think the case for him is quite obvious, anybody have any specific reasons to go against him?

                              Surely RDT is a better bet than Gold Present at 11/1 and 12/1 respectively?

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                              • Originally posted by Montjeu View Post
                                Very surprised with the lack of love for Ramses De Teilles on here. I would think the case for him is quite obvious, anybody have any specific reasons to go against him?

                                Surely RDT is a better bet than Gold Present at 11/1 and 12/1 respectively?
                                Lack of exp for me

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