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  • Last Goodbye given a shout in this by Dan Barber at the Timeform preview - ran well in the Close Brothers last year & a good winner last time out.

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    • Originally posted by kinloch brae View Post
      Amazed at the money for Coo Star Sivola and Snow Falcon. Beginning to see why favourites win nothing when it comes to the handicaps. Must have been a lot of similar gambles gone west since that last winning favourite.

      That win of Coo Star Sivola proved next to nothing last time. He had to do little more than negotiate the fences. About as far from solid form as you can get.

      I am struggling with Dingo Dollar as well. Up a stone for beating 8 rivals in two ordinary races. Will find this a little different.
      Originally posted by opatcho View Post
      Coo Star is being tipped like it's going to bolt in, I can't see it at all! Happy for this to go off fav!
      What do you like / have backed/ will be backing?

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      • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
        What do you like / have backed/ will be backing?
        I like Traffic Fluide, I have backed it to win at large prices, and will back it again on the day to Place

        - Entered for National, so expect him to take 3 mile route
        - Ran in last years Champion Chase, outpaced but finished ok considering
        - Expect to run better on better ground (better than Ascot and Haydock soft)
        - Often hits a flat spot, hope the undulations will allow Moore to get a breather into him to reduce any impact of this
        - Finished the season on 156 OR (highest was 158), two Grade 1 (King George and the Betfair chase!) and three Grade 2 races later, he arrives at the festival on 143!
        - Ran in 3 handicaps back in 2015, only been in one since - where he tried to set the pace over 2m3f in the Old Roan, only to be outpaced.. he then kept on from 2 out

        His two stand out performance last year were in the Champ Chase (Good-Soft ground), and at Ascot (good ground).

        Good to soft ground on Tuesday, and I'll be very happy! Soft ground, I start to look towards the place market more. Then again, it will be the second chase run of the day, so ground shouldnt be that bad for him

        This is also a huge step down in class, and will running off 11 lbs less from his run in the Roan Chase

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        • My money is on singlefarmpayment but also like Royal Vacation at value.

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          • Originally posted by kinloch brae View Post
            Amazed at the money for Coo Star Sivola and Snow Falcon. Beginning to see why favourites win nothing when it comes to the handicaps. Must have been a lot of similar gambles gone west since that last winning favourite.

            That win of Coo Star Sivola proved next to nothing last time. He had to do little more than negotiate the fences. About as far from solid form as you can get.

            I am struggling with Dingo Dollar as well. Up a stone for beating 8 rivals in two ordinary races. Will find this a little different.
            Yeah I am of the same opinion when it comes to Coo Star Sivola, I just don't get it, but a nice false favourite to have, it keeps the other prices competitive. I actually like Snow Falcon though as a horse, I just think he goes better on flat tracks, his most eye catching run prior to falling IMO was at Newbury last season when it looked as though he may put it up to UNWIMH, but 3m @ Newbury isn't the same as 3m+ @ Cheltenham (obviously) and think he will struggle again, but my main concern with him, and I am not too sure how it reads when it comes to this race, but he's been on the go, including flat racing, since August, that's a long old season for him, it didn't work last season for Cheltenham, and I can't see it working again!

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            • Rather Be looks to have a very good chance of winning the Close. Bros. He will be competing at the highest level next year. Ryanair horse


              Sorry wrong thread ...again.

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              • King also raised the intriguing possibility of the JP McManus-owned Yanworth running in the Ultima Handicap Chase, due off 40 minutes before the Champion Hurdle.

                Two from four over fences this term, the eight-year-old holds an entry in the RSA Chase, and King has not ruled out the Sun Bets Stayers' Hurdle.

                There might be, however, a third option at the festival.

                "He's in very good form and we're about to start cranking him up now," said King, speaking to Racing UK. "He'll do some serious work this week. We'll get him there in top shape then decide where we go.

                "Off 149 he might well have an entry in the Ultima."

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                • Think King’s been reading the ‘Willie Mullins on Putting Everyone Away’ guide...

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                  • Originally posted by Can't Catch Me View Post
                    King also raised the intriguing possibility of the JP McManus-owned Yanworth running in the Ultima Handicap Chase, due off 40 minutes before the Champion Hurdle.

                    Two from four over fences this term, the eight-year-old holds an entry in the RSA Chase, and King has not ruled out the Sun Bets Stayers' Hurdle.

                    There might be, however, a third option at the festival.

                    "He's in very good form and we're about to start cranking him up now," said King, speaking to Racing UK. "He'll do some serious work this week. We'll get him there in top shape then decide where we go.

                    "Off 149 he might well have an entry in the Ultima."
                    That quotes from about a month ago isn't it?! He's confirmed for the stayers

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                    • Yeah...

                      A day later he confirmed Stayers

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                      • Originally posted by Robbante View Post
                        That quotes from about a month ago isn't it?! He's confirmed for the stayers
                        Sorry it was in the Post today?

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                        • Alan King is confident he has made the correct decision to put the chasing career of Yanworth on hold for a shot at the Sun Bets Stayers' Hurdle.

                          The JP McManus-owned eight-year-old, who has won two of his four starts over fences this season, will revert back to hurdles for the first time since landing a Grade One at Aintree in April in the three-mile contest at the Cheltenham Festival on Thursday week.

                          King said: "It looks a good renewal and there is a fair bit of depth about it this year, but I think it was the right decision.

                          "I'd been quite keen to do it for some time and JP and Frank (Berry, McManus' racing manager) said 'it's your call'. Hopefully they are pleased with the decision I've made.

                          "I just felt off his current mark over fences we couldn't run him in an RSA as it would be pointless, so it was either run him in the Ultima or Stayers' so from that point of view it was an easy decision.

                          "Buveur D'Air successfully switched from fences to hurdles last season, although he had a run before Cheltenham. We will school him on Thursday and possibly Monday, but he has had a lot of schooling over hurdles since his last run."

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                          • Originally posted by Can't Catch Me View Post
                            Sorry it was in the Post today?
                            You sure it wasn't an old Post?! He's not even entered in the ultima. Made my heart skip a beat that

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                            • Originally posted by Robbante View Post
                              You sure it wasn't an old Post?! He's not even entered in the ultima. Made my heart skip a beat that
                              Sorry lads, must have clicked back through to an old article without even realising it. Apologies

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                              • So Mala Beach and Alpha DEs Obeaux and The Storyteller pulled out....

                                WHo can spot the ride for Davy Russell?

                                It'd be crazy if he didn't have a ride?

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