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Coral Cup 2018

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  • I had Top Of the Game lined up for this before last weekend, I am now leaning toward that Nichols horse that was mentioned here a few weeks back Djingle. I think they will go down the APS route of first run in UK.

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    • As well as The Storyteller, whom I backed earlier in the week, I have been looking at Diese Des Bieffes for this race too.

      Currently 16/1 NRNB, He was supposedly outpaced over his first try at this trip at Kempton back in January, which is a flat track anyway and may not have suited, and given he had won over 2m this season I'm not entirely convinced it was him being 'outpaced' as the description said, more that he couldn't quicken in 'soft' ground, as his best form has been on 'Good', which is what I am hoping he may encounter at the festival.

      He has some nice form with If The Cap Fits, who looks the leading contender for the Supreme for entries this side of the Irish Sea, which is a positive.

      My main worry is him not getting into the race due to his rating, but if he does he will have an extremely low weight, and not one to be ignored from possibly the best stable in the country.

      He's currently rated 137, 2 horses got in the race last season off 136, so there is a possibility, worst case is I get my money back.

      DDB is likely to re-oppose William Henry in this, another Henderson trained runner, but I think this track and better ground can see him turn the tables with that stable mate, and also at current ratings has a 4lb turn in the weights from their previous run at Kempton.

      I see he may also run in the Martin Pipe, which I will also cover him for as NRNB, but I do think he'd be better suited, if he can get in of course, for this race.

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      • Was talking to a mate yesterday who was talking to a lad he knows who is a racehorse photographer.

        He reckons they are setting Mohaayed up for a tilt at this. Now im a bit confused as I had him
        Down for the County. I’ve now ended up with nrnb for both races just in case.

        These handicaps are a nightmare.

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        • Barters Hill into 7/2 from 8s overnight for the 3m handicap at Newbury tomorrow

          I backed him yesterday but I’m a bit hopeful he gets outstayed tomorrow and comes here rather than the stayers

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          • Originally posted by Hurricane fly View Post
            Barters Hill into 7/2 from 8s overnight for the 3m handicap at Newbury tomorrow

            I backed him yesterday but I’m a bit hopeful he gets outstayed tomorrow and comes here rather than the stayers
            They've said a few times its stayers or nothing... I'm taking that at face value

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            • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
              They've said a few times its stayers or nothing... I'm taking that at face value
              Pretty sure he said that if the horse doesn't want to race, they won't push him, rather than Stayers or nothing.

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              • I'm getting good at this Google lark

                "I have no reason to believe the injury will cause him any ill effects. We didn't know what to expect when we started out on this journey and we still don't now really, although he appears to have retained plenty of his ability in his work.

                "Everyone will be watching Barters Hill and we want him to come home safe and sound. I'm aware he has to get through Saturday first, but if we went to Cheltenham we will have the option of the Coral Cup or the Stayers' Hurdle.


                That was from Pauling himself.

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                • That's much more plausible then.

                  I'm not sure where he would need to finish to make the Coral Cup the best option?

                  He has to win tomorrow to book his place and if he won tomorrow he'd have too much weight in the Coral Cup?

                  I love Barters Hill absolutely loads. 20/1 NRNB ... I'd just taken it far too literally that he won't run here. Nothing to lose now

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                  • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                    That's much more plausible then.

                    I'm not sure where he would need to finish to make the Coral Cup the best option?

                    He has to win tomorrow to book his place and if he won tomorrow he'd have too much weight in the Coral Cup?

                    I love Barters Hill absolutely loads. 20/1 NRNB ... I'd just taken it far too literally that he won't run here. Nothing to lose now
                    A half decent run, maybe pushed up a few lbs?

                    I really like the horse, too.

                    Backed him for this as soon as they went NRNB, and couldn't resist trying to pay for my summer hotel upgrade tomorrow

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                    • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                      That's much more plausible then.

                      I'm not sure where he would need to finish to make the Coral Cup the best option?

                      He has to win tomorrow to book his place and if he won tomorrow he'd have too much weight in the Coral Cup?

                      I love Barters Hill absolutely loads. 20/1 NRNB ... I'd just taken it far too literally that he won't run here. Nothing to lose now
                      Anywhere imo. I cant see him winning with distance between them over 3 with his run style. He's far superior over 2m5 imo. And Pauling would have missed a trick for me. He's not a 3 miler.
                      Hopefully he retains a fair amount of his ability. He wouldn't need all of it to win the coral of a similar mark.
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                      • Well would have no chance in the stayers hurdle.

                        Defintiely better suited to this race but unlikely runner now? - I'm sure we'll find out within half an hour.

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                        • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                          Well would have no chance in the stayers hurdle.

                          Defintiely better suited to this race but unlikely runner now? - I'm sure we'll find out within half an hour.
                          He never would have
                          I'd still be happy with him here he's never wanted 3m. Could even get into the martin pipe now. But preference for a low weight here.
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                          • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
                            He never would have
                            I'd still be happy with him here he's never wanted 3m. Could even get into the martin pipe now. But preference for a low weight here.
                            Haha, you can never say never. If he'd won by 57 lengths today he definitely would have had a chance in the stayers

                            Did he show enough today to say he retains enough ability to win any race at the festival? I thought he jumped poorly and just emptied out. They made it clear enough that today was to see where he is at, and he isn't up to winning any race at the festival ... so will they pull up stumps? Or will they go against what they said?

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                            • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                              Haha, you can never say never. If he'd won by 57 lengths today he definitely would have had a chance in the stayers

                              Did he show enough today to say he retains enough ability to win any race at the festival? I thought he jumped poorly and just emptied out. They made it clear enough that today was to see where he is at, and he isn't up to winning any race at the festival ... so will they pull up stumps? Or will they go against what they said?
                              I'd run him in the coral cup. Nothing was in his favour here id be dissapointed to end like that. He wants 2 1/2 gd to soft. If hes got it left. That's how you'll find out
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                              • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
                                I'd run him in the coral cup. Nothing was in his favour here id be dissapointed to end like that. He wants 2 1/2 gd to soft. If hes got it left. That's how you'll find out
                                365 who were 20/1 offered 90% cash out .... but have put him 33/1 for the coral cup.

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