Cheltenham Bumper 2018

[Al Ferof]

What was the name of Mags Mullins horse that sluiced up in a bumper couple of months back?

Think Tabor owns a share in it.

I’d like that one for the bumper- looked a class act. Usually a race to play on the day though for me.

[Bayoffreedom]

With apologies for the poor formatting, I thought it might be interesting to compare current Timeform ratings with the best prices available.

HORSE / TIMEFORM RATING / BEST PRICES

GOOD BOY BOBBY 115p 20/1
HOLLLOWGRAPHIC 115 7/1
DOWNTOWN GETAWAY 114 20/1
DIDTHEYLEAVEUOUTTO 113p 8/1
BRACE YOURSELF 113 14/1
RAPID ESCAPE 113 16/1
MINELA ENCORE 112 25/1
BULLIONAIRE 110 20/1
CAREFULLY SELECTED 110 20/1
CROOKS PEAK 109p 33/1
GALLAHERS CROSS 109+ 33/1
THE FLYING SOFA 109+ 25/1
DAPHNE DU CLOS 109 No Price (NP)
SAM'S ADVENTURE 109 NP
THE BIG BITE 108p 25/1
ACEY MILAN 108 20/1
FELIX DESJY 108 33/1
TIEM TO MOVE ON 107p 20/1
THEATRE LEGEND 107+ NP
AIR NAVIGATOR 107 n/q
LECHLADE MAGICIAN 107 NP
STRONG GLANCE 107 40/1
VOCARIUM 107 NP

[Kevloaf]

Downtown getaway, Al Ferof?

That's quite interfering. Is it easy to see the timeform ratings fit the last few winners prior to the festival?

[Scooby91]

Downtown getaway, Al Ferof?

That's quite interfering. Is it easy to see the timeform ratings fit the last few winners prior to the festival?

Different owners now grech and parkin and he'd need to run again in the listed race coming up. As id be shocked if the owners and hendo would consider sending him there without another run. If they are considering him for the race at all.

Gallaghers cross also going hurdling 2m4

[Robbante]

Didtheyleaveuoutto going straight for the bumper, confirmed by Gifford today. Him and hollowgraphic stand out as the two to beat in this for me, slight preference for the former, beat a top class field last time with loads in hand

[The Beast]

Didtheyleaveuoutto going straight for the bumper, confirmed by Gifford today. Him and hollowgraphic stand out as the two to beat in this for me, slight preference for the former, beat a top class field last time with loads in hand

Yep agree Robbante , taking shape now market. Can see both these halving in price come the day to whats on offer currently.

[Al Ferof]

Different owners now grech and parkin and he'd need to run again in the listed race coming up. As id be shocked if the owners and hendo would consider sending him there without another run. If they are considering him for the race at all.

Gallaghers cross also going hurdling 2m4

Downtown Getaway is listed as same owners as his win?

Horse I really like.

[Scooby91]

Downtown Getaway is listed as same owners as his win?

Horse I really like.

That always happens until they are entered up again.

[Al Ferof]

That always happens until they are entered up again.

Cheers Scoob! Who trains him?

[Scooby91]

Cheers Scoob! Who trains him?

Henderson.

[Jimmy MacJambo]

Anyone heard any news on Wylie’s Stay Humble, not been seeing the track yet and surely running out of time before the Cheltenham bumper

[Kevloaf]

Anyone heard any news on Wylie’s Stay Humble, not been seeing the track yet and surely running out of time before the Cheltenham bumper

Can't find anything.

Looking at Mullins bumper runners and when they first ran that season.... ***this is going to take me longer than I'd hoped, hopefully be worthwhile!**

2009 - 8 runners! (Race won by Dunguib)
Quel Espirit (4th) - debut 27.12.08 (won)
Morning Supreme (5th) - debut 19.12.08 (won)
Cranky Corner (7th) - debut 30.11.08 (2nd)
Meath All Star (11th) - debut 11.07.08 (won)
Gagewell Flyer (15th) - debut 13.12.08 (won)
Sicilian Secret (16th) - debut 15.02.09 (won) - Patrick's mount in the Chelt Bumper (not sure if he had "first pick" then though?)
Cadspeed (22nd) - debut 30.10.08 (3rd) - had 4 runs before Chelt
Quinola Des Obeaux (24th) - debut 16.11.08 (won)

2010 Won by Cue Card from Al Ferof (Ruby riding for Nicholls in this years)
Bishopsfurze (7th) - debut 24.02.10 (won)
Up Ou That (13th) - debut 17.01.10 (won)
Day Of A Lifetime (24th) - debut 20.02.10 (won)

2011 Won by Cheltenian
Tusa Eire (15th) - debut 02.01.11 (2nd) - ran again in Jan (won) Ruby rode
Lord Gale (PU) - debut 13.02.11 (won) Patricks ride... both Mullins runners were 20/1.
Felix Yonger ran for Wylie but for Howard Johnson - 66/1 and came 21st.

2012 won by Chapange Fever (Ricci) (Jezki, The New One, Many Clouds all G1 winners in behind that day)
Champagne Fever (1st) - debut 26.12.11 (2nd), raced again 22.01.12 (won) - Patrick rode at 16/1
Pique Sous (3rd) - debut 26.04.11 in a sales bumper (2nd) then 12.02.12 (won) - Ruby's ride

2013 won by Briar Hill (Wylie)
Briar Hill (1st) - debut 03.01.13 (won) Ruby's ride at 25/1 at Cheltenham
Union Dues (8th) - debut 16.12.12 (won)
Sizing Tennessee (21st) - debut 10.04.12 (4th) two wins then before festival in Dec/Jan

2014 Won by Silver Concorde
Shaneshill (2nd) - debut 09.11.13 (Won) Ruby's ride 7/2f
Black Hercules (4th) - debut 08.12.13 (won) Patrick's ride 13/2
Killiltagh Vic (6th) - debut 21.12.13 (2nd) then one two Jan/Feb - Paul Townend ride 8/1 at festival

2015 Won by Moon Racer
Bellshill (10th) - debut 20.11.14 (won) - Ruby's ride 14/1
Au Quart De Tour (13th) - debut 11.01.15 (won)
Livelovelaugh (15th) - debut 07.12.14 (won)
Up For Review (18th) - debut 29.12.14 (won)
Stone Hard (19th) - debut 20.12.14 (won)
Bordini (PU) - debut 16.11.14 (won)

2016 won by Ballyandy by a nose to...
Battleford (2nd) - debut 31.01.16 (won) beat Presenting Percy - went off 25/1 with Fogarty on at Chelt
Bacardys (3rd) - debut 26.12.15 (won) - Runby's mount 16/1
Castello Sforza (4th) - debut 05.04.15 (won) 11/1 Barry Geraghty rode
Augusta Kate (7th) - debut 19.09.15 (won) also ran Nov (won) - went off 7/2f for Paul Townend
Very Much So (8th) - debut 29.04.14 (won) - no run then before next March 33/1
Avenir D'Une Vie (12th) - debut 14.11.15 (4th) behind Our Duke. Ran 3 times then, Dec,Jan,Feb 2 wins and 2nd. 10/1 Patricks mount.
Turcagua (15th) - debut 20.04.14 (3rd behind Moon racer at Fairyhouse on debut) - then ran Dec 14 and missed entire season...

2017 Won by Fayonagh
Next Destination (4th) - debut 01.01.17 (won) - Ruby's mount 10/1
Carter McKay (15th) - debut 28.12.16 (won) 1 more run, won. Patricks mount 11/2.
Probably worth mentioning that Getabird was ante post fav when ruled out.


SO - after all that.... apart from 5 of these runners, they'd all have been out by now. Some hope for Stay Humble, but would need to run in Mid Feb or end of Jan... perhaps the new Dublin racing festival is an option (assuming they have a bumper!!!)

Mullins had last place in 2009, 2010, 2011 - but since 2012 has had at least 1 horse win or hit the frame bar one year.

If they win on debut, the majorty go straight there... if beaten, they always run again.

[Jimmy MacJambo]

That is awesome
Many thanks and very informative

[Liammet]

Great stats and info kev,thanks
That was a quality bumper in 2012
Thought Willies recent record was better than that
Two wins from nine still a good return though

[Kevloaf]

Great stats and info kev,thanks
That was a quality bumper in 2012
Thought Willies recent record was better than that
Two wins from nine still a good return though

To be fair, I only started from 2009 as it is the first I can remember but:

1996 Wither or Which Mr Willie Mullins Willie Mullins
1997 Florida Pearl Richard Dunwoody Willie Mullins
1998 Alexander Banquet Mr Ruby Walsh Willie Mullins
2000 Joe Cullen Charlie Swan Willie Mullins
2005 Missed That Ruby Walsh Willie Mullins
2008 Cousin Vinny Mr Patrick Mullins Willie Mullins
2012 Champagne Fever Mr Patrick Mullins Willie Mullins
2013 Briar Hill Ruby Walsh Willie Mullins

8 wins from 25 runnings is superb

He's never gone more than 4 seasons without winning it.... so this year is a slam dunk