Cheltenham Bumper 2018

[Can't Catch Me]

Still think 12/1 is value tbh!

[archie]

Only 10s now and it probably reflects the fact that Willie tends to send his best bumper prospects out late December or January. Of course, Hollowgraphic is a slightly different proposition because of his previous race experience but the comment about him being a Cheltenham horse were only about him running in the race albeit he only runs them if he thinks they're in with a chance.

[Kevloaf]

They'll be a few he runs in with a chance but it's great to hear such positive comments and that its on the mind!

Glad he was highlighted here and on ATR by Patrick

[Rhinestone_Cowboy]

They'll be a few he runs in with a chance but it's great to hear such positive comments and that its on the mind!

Glad he was highlighted here and on ATR by Patrick

Agreed, thanks to Hurrican Fly and Scooby I think for first flagging him on here. Managed a bit of 36s with Hills. Must say I'm a big fan of the Hills and Laddies price boosts especially when they are already top or joint top price

[Scooby91]

Downtown getaway up for sale at the weekend. Be interesting to see who buys him although if he was that good, I'm sure Willie would have been on the phone privately.

[Kevloaf]

Downtown getaway up for sale at the weekend. Be interesting to see who buys him although if he was that good, I'm sure Willie would have been on the phone privately.

Very interesting. Not one I've got covered at all... just incase Gigginstown get him snaffled up and because it was under my radar. Is anyone expecting that race to start producing winners? A lot of talked up and fancied runners before but I like to be cautious as it isn't in the TV channels interest to talk there races down....

[archie]

Downtown Getaway fetched £350k. Goes to Henderson.

[Kevloaf]

Downtown Getaway fetched £350k. Goes to Henderson.

Thanks.

In terms of this race, anyone more inclined now?

[Scooby91]

Rapids escape franking thehollowgraphic form once again. Could be a dangerous game thinking mullins has better at home.
At half way I was thinking this one first cut might be a machine lol.

[billymag]

Think I mentioned on here last year that i have a system i use for the bumper. The main aspect of the system looks at when the horse made his bumper debut, the theory being that if they made their debut before the Galway festival and connections resist the temptation of going over hurdles then they must think he or she has a very good chance of winning the Bumper at the festival. The system has been great over the years and incorporates a few other bits as well. Hollowgraphic will be a qualifier on the system and as such Ive added him at 12/1 2pt win and hopefully he gets to the Festival.

In years gone by there are usually 2-5 qualifiers, recent successes:
2017 Fayonagh 7/1 sp (debut May2016)
2015 Moon Racer 9/2 sp (debut April 2014)
2014 Silver Concorde 16/1 sp (debut Jan 2012)

There have been quite a few placed horses over the years at decent prices also, from the top of my head i think Yanworth was a qualifier at a big price.

Also just for info purposes Stay Humble who has quite a reputation at Willies is ready to run and should be out over xmas.

[Leman14]

Think I mentioned on here last year that i have a system i use for the bumper. The main aspect of the system looks at when the horse made his bumper debut, the theory being that if they made their debut before the Galway festival and connections resist the temptation of going over hurdles then they must think he or she has a very good chance of winning the Bumper at the festival. The system has been great over the years and incorporates a few other bits as well. Hollowgraphic will be a qualifier on the system and as such Ive added him at 12/1 2pt win and hopefully he gets to the Festival.

In years gone by there are usually 2-5 qualifiers, recent successes:
2017 Fayonagh 7/1 sp (debut May2016)
2015 Moon Racer 9/2 sp (debut April 2014)
2014 Silver Concorde 16/1 sp (debut Jan 2012)

There have been quite a few placed horses over the years at decent prices also, from the top of my head i think Yanworth was a qualifier at a big price.

Also just for info purposes Stay Humble who has quite a reputation at Willies is ready to run and should be out over xmas.

Thanks Billymag - I love theories like this.
There is certainly a great deal of logic to this and if it works... why not?!

Happy to say that I've covered Hollowgraphic @ 20's & Stay Humble @ 33's

[Kevloaf]

Also just for info purposes Stay Humble who has quite a reputation at Willies is ready to run and should be out over xmas.

There would be no better Christmas present for me than Stay Humble coming out and winning well and becoming short priced fav for the Bumper.

On your system - do you back all of the qualifiers each time? and do you back them ante post or at SP?

[billymag]

I back them all antepost if connections state that they are intended runners and I think the price will shorten:
"He'll do. A good performance from a good horse. I'd imagine he'll be one for the bumper at the Cheltenham Festival - Willie Mullins, trainer of \Hollowgraphic"

So felt its was worth it on this occasion. But any of the qualifiers that I havent backed I back on the day each way, quite a few firms offer 4 places on the day.

Horses to qualify have to of won 50% of there races and earned a form book comment to show that they have the class to win the champion bumper ie easily, comfortably, impressive. Ill post the qualifiers as they appear.

[Scooby91]

There would be no better Christmas present for me than Stay Humble coming out and winning well and becoming short priced fav for the Bumper.

On your system - do you back all of the qualifiers each time? and do you back them ante post or at SP?

He isn't entered up anywhere. Down royal on st Stephens day was the race everyone was hoping for.

Sutton place however was schooled over fences at navan on Sunday.

[Kevloaf]

I back them all antepost if connections state that they are intended runners and I think the price will shorten:
"He'll do. A good performance from a good horse. I'd imagine he'll be one for the bumper at the Cheltenham Festival - Willie Mullins, trainer of \Hollowgraphic"

So felt its was worth it on this occasion. But any of the qualifiers that I havent backed I back on the day each way, quite a few firms offer 4 places on the day.

Horses to qualify have to of won 50% of there races and earned a form book comment to show that they have the class to win the champion bumper ie easily, comfortably, impressive. Ill post the qualifiers as they appear.

Thanks billy, that'll be interesting to see.

More strategic than my effort in the bumpers over the years.... in fact I've just had a look through and since I started in 2011 I have never had the winner of the bumper!
Best effort was 29/1 Battleford win only who got beaten by Ballyandy in a photo!