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Triumph Hurdle 2018

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  • Redicean visually very impressive. Not sure the form amounts to much though. A line through Famous Milly who stuffed Malaya, then went on to get stuffed herself. I won't be getting carried away with the form of this horse.

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    • Originally posted by doctorwu View Post
      Redicean visually very impressive. Not sure the form amounts to much though. A line through Famous Milly who stuffed Malaya, then went on to get stuffed herself. I won't be getting carried away with the form of this horse.
      Ground was very testing at Aintree and Malaya didn't see it out. I suspect it was a much better effort today but the winner has won by as far as he wanted.

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      • If anyone likes to use timings as relative evidence then this may be of interest.

        Redicean was 17lb slower than Global Citizen overall and also fractionally slower from 3 out, according to Simon Rowlands.

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        • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
          Any worth mentioning?

          "Act Of Valour is a three-year-old that will arrive after Christmas. bought from Qatar for Max McNeill. There was a horse bought this weekend called Danny Kirwan for Paul Nicholls. We’re gonna hear an awful lot about him. He won a point-to-point in Lisronagh (three) weeks ago and he’s a four-year-old that has the world at his feet. He absolutely destroyed a field of point-to-pointers"
          Was worth going to the owners day at ditcheat.
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          • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
            Was worth going to the owners day at ditcheat.
            By the nutjob that is Scorpion. Looks a unit already, shades of Might Bite, but maybe that's me seeing it due to him having the same sire.

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            • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
              By the nutjob that is Scorpion. Looks a unit already, shades of Might Bite, but maybe that's me seeing it due to him having the same sire.
              I'm very keen on him for next year And the future as a whole. Diddnt have the funds to buy a piece of him though. But he has a very bright future over obstacles.
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              • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
                If anyone likes to use timings as relative evidence then this may be of interest.

                Redicean was 17lb slower than Global Citizen overall and also fractionally slower from 3 out, according to Simon Rowlands.
                And his conclusion is? No good having theories if they don't lead anywhere.

                To my eyes Global Citizen was a very impressive front running winner and Redicean was a very impressive hold-up winner. The latter's time was only going to be as good as those leading him. They are not going to meet so is the time difference really a big deal?

                Hutchinson has only asked Redicean after the second last. I suspect he was quicker than Global Citizen from that point.
                Last edited by kinloch brae; 24 February 2018, 07:54 PM.

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                • Redicean was visually impressive today however Kempton and Cheltenham couldn’t be more different tracks. Today was tailor made for him with his turn of pace from his flat days. His jumping a lot sharper today but don’t think I’d chance him around Cheltenham personally.

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                  • Originally posted by SeanRock View Post
                    Redicean was visually impressive today however Kempton and Cheltenham couldn’t be more different tracks. Today was tailor made for him with his turn of pace from his flat days. His jumping a lot sharper today but don’t think I’d chance him around Cheltenham personally.
                    Agreed. Been stung by getting carried away with these races in the past. Now shorter than The Spring Juvenile 1-2 and the betting so I will be looking elsewhere.

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                    • Redicean form is not good at all. Malaya got thumped by gumball and famous milly who both subsequently have been thumped.

                      He has a good turn of foot from the flat and haa won him his last races which have been in quite slow run races.

                      No way is the triumph going to be a sprint finish. Not with the engine of a few of these. I.e Apples Shakira, WHAD, Sussex Ranger...

                      I just cant understand him now being 2nd fav... blows my mind

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                      • Originally posted by lukemouaj View Post
                        Redicean form is not good at all. Malaya got thumped by gumball and famous milly who both subsequently have been thumped.

                        He has a good turn of foot from the flat and haa won him his last races which have been in quite slow run races.

                        No way is the triumph going to be a sprint finish. Not with the engine of a few of these. I.e Apples Shakira, WHAD, Sussex Ranger...

                        I just cant understand him now being 2nd fav... blows my mind
                        He looks perfect for juvenile hurdle at Aintree to my eye. That's when I'll back him.

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                        • Originally posted by kinloch brae View Post
                          And his conclusion is? No good having theories if they don't lead anywhere.

                          To my eyes Global Citizen was a very impressive front running winner and Redicean was a very impressive hold-up winner. The latter's time was only going to be as good as those leading him. They are not going to meet so is the time difference really a big deal?

                          Hutchinson has only asked Redicean after the second last. I suspect he was quicker than Global Citizen from that point.
                          Completely irrelevant point, given this is the Triumph thread, but only Hutchinson will be able to explain his performance on Scarlet Dragon who traveled beautifully and was only asked to race when he found himself 15+ lengths off the winner 2f out, was the single biggest head scratching ride I saw yesterday....

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                          • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post
                            Completely irrelevant point, given this is the Triumph thread, but only Hutchinson will be able to explain his performance on Scarlet Dragon who traveled beautifully and was only asked to race when he found himself 15+ lengths off the winner 2f out, was the single biggest head scratching ride I saw yesterday....
                            A strange ride Ista. I immediately went to see which handicap he was entered for, but he isn't.

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                            • In my opinion that horse was schooled in public as we used to say, Its not used these days as a big fine can be imposed. Jockeys have got more wise to the possibility and and perform antics during the ride to cover up, such as dropping out , pretending to whip and move frantically only to run on well after the last. Never placed to challange it should read in the form book. He also looked as if he would improve for the run. I expect a 12L turn around in Scarlet Dragon.

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                              • To be fair to the jockey, he was definitely riding a kindish type of race, but he also got locked up on the home turn, which can be bad news at Kempton as the bend seems to last forever. By the time he saw daylight the winner was well gone.
                                surprised some bookies pushed him out for supreme as it was a promising debut over hurdles, although the form is unlikely to be quite good enough.

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