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Ballymore (Previously Neptune) Novice Hurdle 2018

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  • Originally posted by Innoko View Post
    To be fair, the target is still unclear. And OTBS is now certain to go here. All factors in the drift I would say..
    Hope you're right mate. Seems too big to me.

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    • Best case scenario for me is Samcro here and ND go the AB. Must admit though after that Elliott interview I am slightly concerned. I have nice returns on Samcro ‘any race’ but most multiples Include Samcro Ballymore and COC cross country

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      • On The Blind Side is a knocking each way bet to nothing with 365 at NRNB BOG 1/4 the odds for anyone haviong doubts about Samcro running here...

        If you're right, you're on a good bet, if you're wrong, he seems the best of British by a way and there won't be more than 2 Irish contenders better?

        Samcro, Getabird, NExt Destination On The Blindside would be WORSE CASE scenario and that is unlikely!

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        • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
          On The Blind Side is a knocking each way bet to nothing with 365 at NRNB BOG 1/4 the odds for anyone haviong doubts about Samcro running here...

          If you're right, you're on a good bet, if you're wrong, he seems the best of British by a way and there won't be more than 2 Irish contenders better?

          Samcro, Getabird, NExt Destination On The Blindside would be WORSE CASE scenario and that is unlikely!
          I'm on on the blind side at 95.0 however he's short for what he's beat. Is his form any better than black ops last run? . I'm not sure

          His form is good, hes very likable and he's pulling away. But is it top class grade 1 form over 2m5 at chelt on decent ground, against the likes of samcro who posesses plenty of pace, and a high cruising speed, and the slick jumping and turn of foot of next destination, I don't know. I don't think he's a cert for the 3 but he's likely to be there abouts.
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          • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
            I'm on on the blind side at 95.0 however he's short for what he's beat. Is his form any better than black ops last run? . I'm not sure

            His form is good, hes very likable and he's pulling away. But is it top class grade 1 form over 2m5 at chelt on decent ground, against the likes of samcro who posesses plenty of pace, and a high cruising speed, and the slick jumping and turn of foot of next destination, I don't know. I don't think he's a cert for the 3 but he's likely to be there abouts.
            Is his form any better than Black Ops - are you having a laugh?

            On his Cheltenham win be beat a horse that’s now a grade 1 winner and a mare that won a pretty decent mares race & is rated a future grade 1 winner by her connections - chances are he improved on that at Sandown & after 3 runs, surely has room for further improvement.

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            • Originally posted by Cashew King View Post
              Is his form any better than Black Ops - are you having a laugh?

              On his Cheltenham win be beat a horse that’s now a grade 1 winner and a mare that won a pretty decent mares race & is rated a future grade 1 winner by her connections - chances are he improved on that at Sandown & after 3 runs, surely has room for further improvement.
              Disect the grade 1 winner and the mare. And his next run. Put it in context to the ballymore.

              He does have future room for improvement no doubt. I'm talking about ehat he's done to date.
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              • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
                Disect the grade 1 winner and the mare. And his next run. Put it in context to the ballymore.

                He does have future room for improvement no doubt. I'm talking about ehat he's done to date.
                We could play that game with Samcro - it’s beaten trees very well at 4s on & 5s on - it’s the price it is now on hype & connections - we’ll all find out if Irish or English form is stronger won’t we.

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                • Originally posted by Cashew King View Post
                  We could play that game with Samcro - it’s beaten trees very well at 4s on & 5s on - it’s the price it is now on hype & connections - we’ll all find out if Irish or English form is stronger won’t we.
                  I'd agree 100% about samcro we will see about him shortly In his 1st decent test. I'm just giving a completely un bias opinion.
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                  • Originally posted by Cashew King View Post
                    Is his form any better than Black Ops - are you having a laugh?

                    On his Cheltenham win be beat a horse that’s now a grade 1 winner and a mare that won a pretty decent mares race & is rated a future grade 1 winner by her connections - chances are he improved on that at Sandown & after 3 runs, surely has room for further improvement.
                    I took Santini’s win as a knock to OTBS form. Poetic Rhythm beat Mulcahys Hill a short head, OTBS beat Poetic Rhythm 2 lengths. So OTBS has 3 lengths or so in hand on Mulcahys Hill, who was thrashed by both Santini and Black Op. Obviously can’t place too much weight collaterally on all that, but it places serious doubt for me on the strength of OTBS form

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                    • Originally posted by Robbante View Post
                      I took Santini’s win as a knock to OTBS form. Poetic Rhythm beat Mulcahys Hill a short head, OTBS beat Poetic Rhythm 2 lengths. So OTBS has 3 lengths or so in hand on Mulcahys Hill, who was thrashed by both Santini and Black Op. Obviously can’t place too much weight collaterally on all that, but it places serious doubt for me on the strength of OTBS form
                      I wouldn't put too much weight on Mulcahy's Hills last run. He was backed to win and ran well below expectations. I suspect he was still feeling the effects of his previous run. It didn't help his cause that Heskin seemed to spend plenty of the race not appearing to know whether to make the running or not.

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                      • Jetz beating(admittedly in defeat) Carter McKay and Dortmund Park is another boost for Samcro

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                        • Originally posted by Hurricane fly View Post
                          Jetz beating(admittedly in defeat) Carter McKay and Dortmund Park is another boost for Samcro
                          And cracking smart/ next destination.
                          The others did do the donkey work though chasing fabulous saga who went off too fast.
                          But good to see
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                          • Disappointing Jetz isn’t entered in the AB. Ran a good trial there and was happy with my 50/1.

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                            • Originally posted by Can't Catch Me View Post
                              Disappointing Jetz isn’t entered in the AB. Ran a good trial there and was happy with my 50/1.
                              I have a 33-1 ticket , , was hoping he'd be there too.

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                              • What would the thoughts be to Samcro’s potential price on the day? I can cash out for a big profit now with B365 on my each way single.

                                I could replace this as a win single and make a higher potential profit, or I could replace it with the NRNB concession for a tiny profit, but also have the BOG and NRNB concessions.

                                I’m thinking if he hoses up tomorrow, you aren’t getting much bigger than 6-4 on the day even though they’ll be trying to buy your money in the morning.

                                Tough decision. Cash and take the 6/4 NRNB BOG or take 15/8 without any concession? I’ll be leaving my doubles ongoing

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