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Ballymore (Previously Neptune) Novice Hurdle 2018

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  • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post
    I don't think GE will dodge the race with Samcro. It's far more likely that WPM will swerve the race with Next Destination.

    It'd be great if the clash were to happen but I'm far from convinced that it will.
    I think it will, Willie doesn't seem as reluctant to run his good uns in deeper company this season as he was in previous seasons. Both Real Steel and Sharjah taking on Mengli Khan kind of evidences that.

    Either way, not many races this side of Cheltenham suitable for all these 2m4f/3m novice hurdlers he seems to have this season. Getabird, Draconien and Fabulous Saga all have to be plotted too.

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    • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post
      I don't think GE will dodge the race with Samcro. It's far more likely that WPM will swerve the race with Next Destination.

      It'd be great if the clash were to happen but I'm far from convinced that it will.
      Originally posted by Can't Catch Me View Post
      I would have agreed too FM, but I thought Patrick’s quote suggested he is definitely running myself.
      Sorry I wasn't clear. I meant I hope Mullins doesn't dodge it

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      • Speaking of them, Draconien and Fabulous Saga both removed from the Ballymore and Albert Bartlett betting with Paddy Power. Can only assume that means a setback?

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        • Originally posted by Can't Catch Me View Post
          I would have agreed too FM, but I thought Patrick’s quote suggested he is definitely running myself.
          Thanks CCM - I hadn't seen that quote. PP have priced Samcro up at 4/9, ND at 11/4.

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          • Thought they would be a bit closer in the betting than that. What do you guys think will happen in terms of their respective Festival targets if ND wins (either close or comfortably)?

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            • Originally posted by Rhinestone_Cowboy View Post
              Thought they would be a bit closer in the betting than that. What do you guys think will happen in terms of their respective Festival targets if ND wins (either close or comfortably)?
              Wins in any way Deffinately ballymore.
              But I'm also assuming samcro wins
              .at 2/1 for the ballymore he needs to win decisively

              There's only going to be 6 or 7 runners so shouldn't be a rough race. Both staying on there feet is the main thing.
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              • Agreed, ND wins he goes Ballymore.

                Samcro wins comfortably then ND goes AB and Getabird runs in this.

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                • No scenario where Samcro switches? I have about 75% of my stake on Samcro any race and 25% Ballymore. Only have ND in a couple of multiples for Ballymore and AB. Annoyed that I haven't had a decent bet on ND any race after his first impressive win, one of the few AP value prices I've missed I think. Very much in the Samcro camp on Sunday. Deliberating over a ND cover bet for Ballymore...not sure what to do. Anyone have any advice let me know

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                  • Is On The Blind Side dismissed from the thinking here should this be his engagement ?
                    Personally I want him in the potato race but if Hendo thinks has the gears to win this he has to be taken seriously....

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                    • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post
                      Is On The Blind Side dismissed from the thinking here should this be his engagement ?
                      Personally I want him in the potato race but if Hendo thinks has the gears to win this he has to be taken seriously....
                      Agreed he's also of concern and not covered...haha!!

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                      • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post
                        Is On The Blind Side dismissed from the thinking here should this be his engagement ?
                        Personally I want him in the potato race but if Hendo thinks has the gears to win this he has to be taken seriously....
                        Not dismissed by any means. Has a live chance and keeps finding for pressure.
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                        • Originally posted by Tenty View Post
                          Agreed, ND wins he goes Ballymore.

                          Samcro wins comfortably then ND goes AB and Getabird runs in this.
                          Image the scenes if speak easy does them both and pulls clear.
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                          • Originally posted by Rhinestone_Cowboy View Post
                            No scenario where Samcro switches? I have about 75% of my stake on Samcro any race and 25% Ballymore. Only have ND in a couple of multiples for Ballymore and AB. Annoyed that I haven't had a decent bet on ND any race after his first impressive win, one of the few AP value prices I've missed I think. Very much in the Samcro camp on Sunday. Deliberating over a ND cover bet for Ballymore...not sure what to do. Anyone have any advice let me know
                            Either leave ND or have a smaller bet on him at 3/1 + on the day and roll it over should he win.

                            He will also be a fair price in running, samcro will tank along be ridden stylishly. Next destination finds plenty and a change of gear without catching the eye through out the early stages of the race. Nobody knows what samcro finds at the end of the race against real opposition. on bumper form with the mullins mare, not a huge deal. But he could be a whole different animal now with time to mature and an obstacle in front of him. All a guess though. As is ND being assumed to be mullins best 2m5 horse.
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                            • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
                              Either leave ND or have a smaller bet on him at 3/1 + on the day and roll it over should he win.

                              He will also be a fair price in running, samcro will tank along be ridden stylishly. Next destination finds plenty and a change of gear without catching the eye through out the early stages of the race. Nobody knows what samcro finds at the end of the race against real opposition. on bumper form with the mullins mare, not a huge deal. But he could be a whole different animal now with time to mature and an obstacle in front of him. All a guess though. As is ND being assumed to be mullins best 2m5 horse.
                              Wouldn’t take that bumper run literally at all. Had to do all the work from the front and turned into a sprint which would not be Samcros cup of tea. I thought that was a very impressive performance considering. All about opinion though..

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                              • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
                                Either leave ND or have a smaller bet on him at 3/1 + on the day and roll it over should he win.

                                He will also be a fair price in running, samcro will tank along be ridden stylishly. Next destination finds plenty and a change of gear without catching the eye through out the early stages of the race. Nobody knows what samcro finds at the end of the race against real opposition. on bumper form with the mullins mare, not a huge deal. But he could be a whole different animal now with time to mature and an obstacle in front of him. All a guess though. As is ND being assumed to be mullins best 2m5 horse.
                                Like that Scooby, think I will go with the small play in running on ND and roll it over should he win

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