Ballymore (Previously Neptune) Novice Hurdle 2018

[Geordieboy83]

This weekend at Cheltenham gonna be an interesting one

[ComplyOrDie]

Scooby,
Calett Mad runs as well.
What a bizarre racing profile this horse has.

Connections sticking to the same route as Wholestone last season, so no surprise really.

Wholestone was beat in this race last year, and finished a respectable 3rd in the AB, so won't be worrying too much if defeated.

[billymag]

Calett Mad has Daryl jocked up so youd assume hes very likely to be running. He might be fav for the Albert Bart after this race!!! ;-)

[Geordieboy83]

I Keep backing Calett Mad. With DJ on board you would think gonna run and like billy said could well be Fav after race

[Geordieboy83]

Well joint Fav with Samcro, who I have stopped backing now, happy enough for the minute :-)

[doctorwu]

Connections sticking to the same route as Wholestone last season, so no surprise really.

Wholestone was beat in this race last year, and finished a respectable 3rd in the AB, so won't be worrying too much if defeated.

COD,
With regards to Calett Mad, Its the chasing bit thats unusual.

[Scooby91]

Minds eye declared for tomorrow.
Samcro fans will be hoping he goes well.
I personally don't rate minds eye at all and can't see why samcro is anywhere near so short.

[ComplyOrDie]

Minds eye declared for tomorrow.
Samcro fans will be hoping he goes well.
I personally don't rate minds eye at all and can't see why samcro is anywhere near so short.

Without trying to sound blunt, I couldn't care about the horses Samcro beat, because the manor in which he beat them suggests he could have named his distance anyway.

I do, however, get your point about his current price, it is ridiculous now!

[Robante]

Without trying to sound blunt, I couldn't care about the horses Samcro beat, because the manor in which he beat them suggests he could have named his distance anyway.

I do, however, get your point about his current price, it is ridiculous now!

I don't think minds eye is the worst yardstick if you consider he ran Brelade to a neck in a flat race on debut last year. Samcro could have beaten minds eye 20+ lengths if really putting it in.

To me he's the standout of all the novice hurdlers this season so far, that opinion obviously not based on form alone, you have to respect the way connections talk about him as something special. Wouldn't be the first horse that has then flattered to deceive but far more chance he's the real deal and will win a race at the festival come March than not

[Scooby91]

Without trying to sound blunt, I couldn't care about the horses Samcro beat, because the manor in which he beat them suggests he could have named his distance anyway.

I do, however, get your point about his current price, it is ridiculous now!

My only point is I could name many a novice who could choose there distance they beat minds eye and jack dillenger. But I will admit I could be made to look silly if he destroys a true graded field over Christmas. Until he does that though the fact remains hes beat nothing that woildnt be tailed off in a supreme or neptune.
If he goes for the lawyers hotel at navan and beats next destination, getabird, red jack, hollow graphic and early doors I will completely hold my hands up and say I was 100% wrong but to be the price he is now and "the next faugheen" is crazy in my eyes. The best horse he's beat no doubt was a decent mullins mare good thyme Tara (rated 135 over hurdles) in a listed bumper and that so happens to be his least impressive race.

[ComplyOrDie]

My only point is I could name many a novice who could choose there distance they beat minds eye and jack dillenger. But I will admit I could be made to look silly if he destroys a true graded field over Christmas. Until he does that though the fact remains hes beat nothing that woildnt be tailed off in a supreme or neptune.
If he goes for the lawyers hotel at navan and beats next destination, getabird, red jack, hollow graphic and early doors I will completely hold my hands up and say I was 100% wrong but to be the price he is now and "the next faugheen" is crazy in my eyes. The best horse he's beat no doubt was a decent mullins mare good thyme Tara (rated 135 over hurdles) in a listed bumper and that so happens to be his least impressive race.

Another reason why I don't worry about the horses he beat, because he done what he had to do against a below par bunch, with the minimum of fuss, so the form line for this particular horse currently is irrelevant IMO. I love a good solid form line as much as the next person, where there are winners coming out of races etc... but even if the lot he beat manage to go and a win a few after it's not as if it will be a great standard and the argument would be weak anyway.

[Scooby91]

Another reason why I don't worry about the horses he beat, because he done what he had to do against a below par bunch, with the minimum of fuss, so the form line for this particular horse currently is irrelevant IMO. I love a good solid form line as much as the next person, where there are winners coming out of races etc... but even if the lot he beat manage to go and a win a few after it's not as if it will be a great standard and the argument would be weak anyway.

Its more price related than putting down samcro, i feel very strongly that his price is absolutely ridiculous. You'd have atleast thought he'd have won a couple of graded trials at that price

[ComplyOrDie]

Its more price related than putting down samcro, i feel very strongly that his price is absolutely ridiculous. You'd have atleast thought he'd have won a couple of graded trials at that price

And that I completely agree with!

[Scooby91]

2 of the better ones entered up. Madison to Monroe and real steel at the weekend

[Faugheen_Machine]

What price should he be?

I know I wouldn't want to lay the 5/1 so that says to me his price isn't ridiculous - in my eyes anyway