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Stayers Hurdle 2018

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  • IMO this is turning out to be the hardest & best graded race at cheltenham this year, not because of the class of horses but because any of the top 10 could win, you can not say that about many top races..

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    • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
      Patrick Mullins also, on the video on this page ... https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/...le-tour/143563 says he would pick Bacardys over Penhill! He is available at 14s too, wheras Penhill is 10s - I've not been a fan of Penhill all season and the comments from WIllie and Patrick are nails in the coffin for me.

      One of the ONLY horses I won't have running for me in the race
      I'd be cautious about these comments as Patrick has more of an affinity to Bacardy's,
      Penhill is easy to be cautious about, having not run since last year.
      The owner would probably not want too much talk as he appears to like to back his own on or near the day (the withold gamble was very last minute)
      They don't talk up all their winners at the festival, theres many that barely got a mention (arctic fire, wicklow brave, penhill last year)
      Having said that, it's a big ask

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      • Originally posted by Sirbetalot View Post
        IMO this is turning out to be the hardest & best graded race at cheltenham this year, not because of the class of horses but because any of the top 10 could win, you can not say that about many top races..
        Looks tough, I already need some sort of revival from UNWIMH, but I will now concentrate on Supasundae & Yanworth for this now, split stakes until the day for me.

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        • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
          Looks tough, I already need some sort of revival from UNWIMH, but I will now concentrate on Supasundae & Yanworth for this now, split stakes until the day for me.
          I am hoping for a revival from UNWIMH also, but my back up plan is Lami Serge, but not sure that was wise.. just hoping at a price.

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          • Originally posted by quevega View Post
            I'd be cautious about these comments as Patrick has more of an affinity to Bacardy's,
            Penhill is easy to be cautious about, having not run since last year.
            The owner would probably not want too much talk as he appears to like to back his own on or near the day (the withold gamble was very last minute)
            They don't talk up all their winners at the festival, theres many that barely got a mention (arctic fire, wicklow brave, penhill last year)
            Having said that, it's a big ask
            Good point regarding Patrick and Bacardys. Overlooked that as a reason.
            Good point on the owner
            and good point on last season.
            Nothing to add really.... I don't fancy either I suppose but have got Bacardys covered...
            I've said previously I don't NOT LIKE Penhill, he's just been priced too short all season IMO. Not going to get any bigger though!

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            • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
              Good point regarding Patrick and Bacardys. Overlooked that as a reason.
              Good point on the owner
              and good point on last season.
              Nothing to add really.... I don't fancy either I suppose but have got Bacardys covered...
              I've said previously I don't NOT LIKE Penhill, he's just been priced too short all season IMO. Not going to get any bigger though!
              Pricewise said in preview at clonmel tonight he thinks Penhill will be a steamer on the day ?
              That'll be some acheivement if they have got this ready and are confident they'll beat that field, it's not like it's a handicap.
              The price is definitely not value @ 10-1 for obvious reasons though IMO, so for it to shorten on the day will be interesting

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              • Originally posted by quevega View Post
                Pricewise said in preview at clonmel tonight he thinks Penhill will be a steamer on the day ?
                That'll be some acheivement if they have got this ready and are confident they'll beat that field, it's not like it's a handicap.
                The price is definitely not value @ 10-1 for obvious reasons though IMO, so for it to shorten on the day will be interesting
                Penhills form is rock solid so if, and it’s a huge if, they have him in top shape first time up then I understand the support. He finished 7 lengths ahead of wholestone in last year’s Bartlett and the race may well suit one who picks them off late

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                • Remember Penhill is owned by none other than Tony Bloom so I wouldn't be surprised if the horse has been fine and well all Winter and been hidden away to protect his odds, allowing Bloomys team smash into him...

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                  • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post
                    Remember Penhill is owned by none other than Tony Bloom so I wouldn't be surprised if the horse has been fine and well all Winter and been hidden away to protect his odds, allowing Bloomys team smash into him...
                    Theyve not done a good job. He done nothing and gone form 20s to10s since December
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                    • I was on Penhill last year @ 16s & 20s for the AB (got me out of trouble) but could not back him for this year in the stayers without a run....

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                      • WEll if the market speaks for Penhill, I still can't back him as a value bet if I don't think he's value now at 10s.....

                        so the stayers will look like

                        Kevloaf losers:
                        Penhill

                        Kevloaf winners:
                        Every other horse

                        We know exactly how that'll end up

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                        • Supasundae and Sam spinner in this for me now. Been having a few bets on S.sundae , but haven't touched sam spinner ,
                          So , better late than never.going to add him in .

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                          • Penhill was with Tony Mullins for 6 months up till just before Christmas and said he was flying leaving him

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                            • Guys - softish still by thursday? Im so I am all over Colins Sister! 25/1 at the moment. Mares allowance i think, just like bag a roi ?

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                              • Originally posted by BigChaang View Post
                                Supasundae and Sam spinner in this for me now. Been having a few bets on S.sundae , but haven't touched sam spinner ,
                                So , better late than never.going to add him in .
                                Been keen on Sam Spinner all season. I think Supasundae wins on good ground (though looks unlikely). Sam wins for me on good to soft or worse. There is the Cheltenham factor but he has run on a variety of tracks and not had an issue and is likely to improve again having had only seven runs over hurdles.

                                My advice would be to wait until the morning though as I can see him being quite weak in the market and you’ll be able to secure a good price then.

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