Stayers Hurdle 2018

[Kevloaf]

Only just found these articles by Simon Rowlands on sectionals..... well worth reading IMO.

Have to say I am a little surprised by his selection having read it... I didn't expect that!

http://cheltenham.attheraces.com/sectional-spotlight/stayers'-hurdle

Wholestone 4 wins 3 places from 7 runs 100% "place record" around Cheltenham makes 16/1 e/w somewhat more appealing too?

[Scooby91]

Only just found these articles by Simon Rowlands on sectionals..... well worth reading IMO.

Have to say I am a little surprised by his selection having read it... I didn't expect that!

http://cheltenham.attheraces.com/sectional-spotlight/stayers'-hurdle

Wholestone 4 wins 3 places from 7 runs 100% "place record" around Cheltenham makes 16/1 e/w somewhat more appealing too?

Dosent get the trip well enough. Simular to barters hill. He wants 2 1/2

[ComplyOrDie]

Only just found these articles by Simon Rowlands on sectionals..... well worth reading IMO.

Have to say I am a little surprised by his selection having read it... I didn't expect that!

http://cheltenham.attheraces.com/sectional-spotlight/stayers'-hurdle

Wholestone 4 wins 3 places from 7 runs 100% "place record" around Cheltenham makes 16/1 e/w somewhat more appealing too?

Good enough for a trade in-running though I'd imagine!

[Robbante]

I’m against Supasundae so am obviously going to try and find fault, but has he really improved that much this year? Won one out of three races and that was over 2m. The one time he’s raced over 3m this season he looks like he was outstayed to me, and I don’t see what entitles him to be a shorter price than Yanworth. We have no idea how good Apple’s Jade is over 3 miles as that was her only go at the trip... 12 lengths back to Augusta Kate in 4th certainly doesn’t boost the form. I actually think Yanworth got to the front too early at aintree last year, and think this race will be perfect for him. They’ll go a strong pace up front and think he’ll just travel and gallop and creep his way into the race

[Scooby91]

I’m against Supasundae so am obviously going to try and find fault, but has he really improved that much this year? Won one out of three races and that was over 2m. The one time he’s raced over 3m this season he looks like he was outstayed to me, and I don’t see what entitles him to be a shorter price than Yanworth. We have no idea how good Apple’s Jade is over 3 miles as that was her only go at the trip... 12 lengths back to Augusta Kate in 4th certainly doesn’t boost the form. I actually think Yanworth got to the front too early at aintree last year, and think this race will be perfect for him. They’ll go a strong pace up front and think he’ll just travel and gallop and creep his way into the race

I think he's improved a hell of a lot personally. Physically filled out and in the jumping department.
He's a proper horse now imo.
It's a good rivalry between the 2 though after meeting in a bumper a few years ago.
I do However think supasundae is comfortably infront now.

[Robbante]

I think he's improved a hell of a lot personally. Physically filled out and in the jumping department.
He's a proper horse now imo.
It's a good rivalry between the 2 though after meeting in a bumper a few years ago.
I do However think supasundae is comfortably infront now.

I see nothing to suggest that he’s a better horse now over 3 miles than he was last year. Yanworth and the worlds end my biggest winners here and happy to have that as my play in the race. I noticed yesterday that I have a double on If The Cap Fits and Supasundae for this from back in October! Not sure how as have never fancied Supasundae and didn’t think I’d backed him

[ComplyOrDie]

Only just found these articles by Simon Rowlands on sectionals..... well worth reading IMO.

Have to say I am a little surprised by his selection having read it... I didn't expect that!

http://cheltenham.attheraces.com/sectional-spotlight/stayers'-hurdle

Wholestone 4 wins 3 places from 7 runs 100% "place record" around Cheltenham makes 16/1 e/w somewhat more appealing too?

Going on that basis Kev then UNWIMH must have a fair chance, 4 wins from 5 and 1 place, 80% win course record and 100% course place rate too.

Currently 14/1 NRNB with PP!

[Scooby91]

I see nothing to suggest that he’s a better horse now over 3 miles than he was last year. Yanworth and the worlds end my biggest winners here and happy to have that as my play in the race. I noticed yesterday that I have a double on If The Cap Fits and Supasundae for this from back in October! Not sure how as have never fancied Supasundae and didn’t think I’d backed him

I completely get where your coming from. Gut instinct i think he wins and i think he wins well. And One of the performances of the festival.
Making a very competative race look easy work.

[Innoko]

I'd like Yanworth to win this.

4th in the Bumper (debatable ride).
2nd in the old Neptune (to Yorkhill)
Disqualified in last years Supreme (wrong trip).

Gets unfair criticism I feel for his defeats at Cheltenham, I'll be cheering him on.

[Robbante]

I completely get where your coming from. Gut instinct i think he wins and i think he wins well. And One of the performances of the festival.
Making a very competative race look easy work.

I better hope IFCF wins then I guess you could argue that he wouldn’t have beaten Faugheen (and other decent 2 milers) over 2m last year so he’s obviously in good heart and that’s improvement itself

[qzy]

A friend of mine was down with Jessie and Puppy in the yard last week (he has a share in a horse down there, as do I), and the only danger they see to Supasundae is Apples Jade if she turned up in this - which they are almost certain she won't.

[Robbante]

On form Yanworth is a huge threat, and as punters we have to place form as the biggest factor most of the time. If it was about yard confidence then Brain Power and Charli Parcs would be unbeaten superstars

[Nick1976]

I feel this race is wide open. Does anyone like La Bague Au Roi if she goes for this?. She is a classy mare and I think has a better chance of winning this then beating Apple's Jade in the Mares race. With 20-1 still on offer I think this would be a good bet.

[Bigfish]

I don't think it adds up Niick1976. If you believe that LBAR cant beat Apples Jade who just holds Supasundae in a race run recently , then the form says that LBAR cant beat Supasundae. LBAR is a good mare thiough 3M soft going required. Be lucky.

[jono]

I feel this race is wide open. Does anyone like La Bague Au Roi if she goes for this?. She is a classy mare and I think has a better chance of winning this then beating Apple's Jade in the Mares race. With 20-1 still on offer I think this would be a good bet.

I'm a fan and have her for the race at 25/1 EW (taken straight after her Ascot win). In the Weekender a few weeks back Greatrex had this to say:

She's stronger in every department now and uch more streetwise while her jumping has been markedly better. I also think stepping up to 3m has been the making of her and she was very good at Ascot last time, winning by 16 lengths from decent opposition.
She was just relentless, galloping all the way to the line. The ground was very soft there and she handled it, but I hav no doubt she's much better on quicker ground. She now goes straight to Cheltenham and we have to choose between the Mares and the Stayers.
We won't decide for a few weeks yet but I feel the extra distance of the stayers plays to her strengths and she does get the 7lb mares allowance, which will be very important when we make out final decision. Another thing to consider is the track they use on the last 2 days of the festival is much more of a stamina test, which will suit her

She would still interest me at 20/1 now if wasn't already on but I would definitely go EW as I feel there probably will be one better on the day. It's an open race though and I see her firmly in the mix with the 7lbs. I hope they do go for this race as like mentioned above - everything about it should suit better, I just have a nagging doubt that they may end up in the mares.

I cannot see LBAR beating Apples Jade over 2m4, nor could I see Supasundae beating AJ over that trip (would have been a wider winning margin if the pair ran at this trip imo) - I actually struggle to think of any horses that would except for Buveur D'Air (really hope for a match up in the Aintree Hurdle this year between the pair!). But I can see LBAR getting involved over 3 miles.

I think any horse is basically on a hiding to nothing running against AJ over 2m4 so if there was any chance the 7lbs could bring me into play in the stayers i'd take it. And in this case it looks the trip and race to suit LBAR the most.