Stayers Hurdle 2018

[Kevloaf]

its on twitter. Theres a unibet video to be released soon - https://twitter.com/EdNicholson68/st...59501254184960

Thanks KSS - good spot.

[Viking Flagship]

Perhaps a spot of value then at 20s considering the Finian’s Oscar formline who is a best priced 12/1 - or do we think FO is simply underpriced? Wouldn’t say there’s any reason to suggest FO would be a vastly superior 3m hurdler to Bacardys, both had a troubled prep but clearly very talented.

[Kevloaf]

Perhaps a spot of value then at 20s considering the Finian’s Oscar formline who is a best priced 12/1 - or do we think FO is simply underpriced? Wouldn’t say there’s any reason to suggest FO would be a vastly superior 3m hurdler to Bacardys, both had a troubled prep but clearly very talented.

20/1 seems alright as he 'outstayed' Finian's Oscar when they met... if it was just between those two...

A situation where if I fancied FO, I'd have to back Bacardys at a bigger price

I have backed both anyway as mentioned a few pagers back, but I am coming at this race in a different way.

Neither strike me as the winner.

[Innoko]

"He will go straight to Cheltenham, but I don't know what race for," King said."He definitely won't run beforehand and we will keep him fresh and he will either go for the RSA Chase or the Stayers' Hurdle.

"He is in very good form and has just been doing the odd canter and is ticking away. The Stayers' Hurdle is worth fortunes this year and his form with Supasundae puts him right in the mix, so we will have to see what they want to do.

No prep for the RSA (Reynoldstown) tells me Yanworth goes for the Stayers.

[Al Ferof]

I also think Yanworth comes here- they know deep down he hasn’t really took to chasing and their line through SupSundae has got them excited.

Unless Apples Jade defected here from
The Mares (which is personally like to see but don’t think will happen)

[Toffees]

I also think Yanworth comes here- they know deep down he hasn’t really took to chasing and their line through SupSundae has got them excited.

Unless Apples Jade defected here from
The Mares (which is personally like to see but don’t think will happen)

Hope so, pot up 25,000 to 325,000 this year as well. JLT & RSA up 25,000 as well but 150,000 and 175,000 respectively.

You'd think he has a good of chance in the Stayers than the two Novice chases, given the opposition. JP will be in a battle for total prize money with Giggi and he'll be counting every penny!
He has the form over Supersundae. 12/1 is fair given the question marks of where he'll go. 8/1 NRNB seems pretty big as well, if he shows up he'd surely go off very close to Sam Spinner. Its almost as open as 2015 when Saphir went off 5/1 fav!
Sam Spinner is a deserved fav but has yet to do it at the festival.

Surely wont happen but 365 cut Faugheen from 16s to 5s today �� That would really throw a spanner in the works.

[Scooby91]

Hope so, pot up 25,000 to 325,000 this year as well. JLT & RSA up 25,000 as well but 150,000 and 175,000 respectively.

You'd think he has a good of chance in the Stayers than the two Novice chases, given the opposition. JP will be in a battle for total prize money with Giggi and he'll be counting every penny!
He has the form over Supersundae. 12/1 is fair given the question marks of where he'll go. 8/1 NRNB seems pretty big as well, if he shows up he'd surely go off very close to Sam Spinner. Its almost as open as 2015 when Saphir went off 5/1 fav!
Sam Spinner is a deserved fav but has yet to do it at the festival.

Surely wont happen but 365 cut Faugheen from 16s to 5s today �� That would really throw a spanner in the works.

I'd be suprised if yanworth dosent go for the rsa. It looks a far weaker race than the stayers. Which with all the horses defecting looks a seriously strong race now to me. Yanworth could run a good race and still come 4th 5th.

He'd have to run an awful one to be outside the top 3 in the rsa imo.

[Toffees]

I'd be suprised if yanworth dosent go for the rsa. It looks a far weaker race than the stayers. Which with all the horses defecting looks a seriously strong race now to me. Yanworth could run a good race and still come 4th 5th.

He'd have to run an awful one to be outside the top 3 in the rsa imo.

Well he hasn't convinced yet over Fences. He can't afford to make the mistakes he's made so far. His hurdle form can't be forgotten about and 3 miles at Cheltenham looks like it will suit him down to the ground this year. He did go off 2/1 for the Champion Hurdle last year.

[Scooby91]

Well he hasn't convinced yet over Fences. He can't afford to make the mistakes he's made so far. His hurdle form can't be forgotten about and 3 miles at Cheltenham looks like it will suit him down to the ground this year. He did go off 2/1 for the Champion Hurdle last year.

He made a few novicey mistakes on his 1st couple of starts. He gave them a bit too much air over shorter last time against decent opposition but he diddnt blunder 1 and won with authority. He just needs to learn how to pop a fence and go from a to b a bit quicker. It all comes with experience, Which is ofcourse why they have employed yogi breisner.
I'd personally give him a far greater chance of winning the rsa than this year's renewal of the stayers. But obviously each to there own opinion

[Garrison Savannah]

Yanworth won't beat FW

[TimRiggins]

Yanworth won't beat FW

[Kevloaf]

If you KNEW Yanworth was coming here ... would you have him shorter than Supasundae on last season's Aintree run?

Is that run, after Cheltenham, having spent a season jumping fences, stronger than Supasundae's much more conventional and progressive, arguably impressive season where he was the 'moral winner' giving weight to Apple's jade?

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[Kevloaf]

I've just seen an interview with Willie Mullins confirming Bacardys is going back hurdling... as he is still a maiden over fences.

Anyone fancy him here?

I actually think next season I will be super-keen on him for the RSA... after Cheltenham they;ll surely put loads of attention on his schooling at home and with the extra year he'll be at quite an advantage potentially? Although I'm sure the market won't miss it!

[Viking Flagship]

I have to confess I’ve backed him at 20s based on value against Finian’s Oscar price/form and that it’s such an open race. I can’t have him being anywhere near 20s on the day. I’m not convinced he’s a Stayers winner in waiting but for me this one is just about a decent speculative punt at a nice price on a horse with loads of talent and a trainer who knows the time of day.

[Faugheen_Machine]

I've backed Bacardys for this race by default, as I went any race on him. I don't have a strong opinion on this race at all, but I'm keen to take on the front of the market.