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  • Originally posted by darlojim View Post
    Do we think Elliott will still take the Mares route even if AJ wins again tomorrow?
    I think Apples Jade is made for 3m and so many horses from Triumph hurdles end up staying well (Tiger Roll, Zarkandar, Top Notch etc) and I think she'd have a right chance in the stayers. The Mares only events muddy the waters somewhat!

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    • Originally posted by darlojim View Post
      Do we think Elliott will still take the Mares route even if AJ wins again tomorrow?
      No.

      Originally posted by Al Ferof View Post
      I think Apples Jade is made for 3m and so many horses from Triumph hurdles end up staying well (Tiger Roll, Zarkandar, Top Notch etc) and I think she'd have a right chance in the stayers. The Mares only events muddy the antepost waters somewhat!

      They might however end up thinking the 3mile event is easier- depending on how it goes and what pans out. They certainly won't be afraid of UKWIMH and if they can defeat NC again over 3m then surely they'd be thinking why not?

      Willies Mares will always give AJ a tough race you'd think.
      There is no possible way that the Mares race on day 1 will be a stronger race than the Stayers Hurdle.

      Apple's Jade is the only open company mare that doesn't need the 7lb allowance, therefore off levels she woul;d dispatch any mare in training, over 2m, 2m4f and 3m.

      The Mares race is a grade 1, she'll be odds on for it and the stayers hurdle doesn't have anywhere near enough sway for Gigginstown or Elliott to give it a moments thought... PLUS it'll be a harder race, 100%. I don't like "Mullins will have some mares so it'll be tough arguement".... if Mullins' mares were that good, why aren't they in the stayers hurdle?

      I have had a rum

      P.s. *for the avoidance of doubt, I do think she'd be the right fav and most likely winner of the stayers hurdle.... but my point is, she won't go for it...as it won't be the easiest grade 1, and it isn't a race that matters to connections.
      Last edited by Kevloaf; 27 December 2017, 10:04 PM.

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      • That looked a horrible fall for NC. Hope he is OK.

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        • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post
          That looked a horrible fall for NC. Hope he is OK.
          Yeah.

          Despite winning, AJ will take the easier option... 1/2L not a big enough swing

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          • Oh no. Heartbreaking

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            • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post
              That looked a horrible fall for NC. Hope he is OK.
              Really sad

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              • Gutting. Seemed to jump too early and came down on top of it. He was a great wee horse

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                • Gutted for the all the connections of NC. It looked like he jumped the shadow.

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                  • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post
                    Gutted for the all the connections of NC. It looked like he jumped the shadow.
                    What a horse he was, honestly one of my all time favs. Rip.
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                    • Terribly sad news, one heck of a horse.

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                      • very sad news for all concerned. That apart, very nice performance from Supasundae.

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                        • I'd be all but sure bacardys goes here now and with a chance at that. Let's dance could put herself in the mix tomorrow. I wouldn't be in a rush to take on Apple's jade with all my mares especially with the unfortunate nicholls canyon no longer with us.
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                          • Just seen the racing news , gutted about Nichols canyon .

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                            • Currently in Australia so haven't managed to see much of the racing but after Annamix I was hoping not much else would go wrong but tbh pretty much all has gone to pot. Do glad I'm not back at home it would be frustrating the hell out of me. NC was another of my most backed horses ante post and am truly gutted for him, he didn't deserve that at all. RIP dude.

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                              • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
                                I'd be all but sure bacardys goes here now and with a chance at that. Let's dance could put herself in the mix tomorrow. I wouldn't be in a rush to take on Apple's jade with all my mares especially with the unfortunate nicholls canyon no longer with us.
                                Wouldn't consider Let's Dance for this race at all - not a grade 1 mare IMO.

                                Bacardys however, 33s went fast and 25s probably will go soon.... with the NC news that makes a lot of sense. Don't think I'd be front of the queue to back him on the day as the most likely winner, but defintiely a horse I'd want onside as he'd get considerably shorter if they decide to go hurdling and on the up potentially.

                                Ruby needs a ride Penhill updates?

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