Champion Chase 2018

[Robante]

This is the worst race to try and assess this year ante post by a distance. My only interests so far are Min and Great Field, but every chance neither will run. If not and it’s Altior vs Douvan vs Fox Norton then you’d have to be fairly confident that Altior and/or Douvan will put their best foot forward and finish ahead of Fox Norton. Are people suggesting Fox Norton has improved? I can’t see a race that he’s won in the last couple of years that he wasn’t fully entitled to win, and I also can’t see how he has a chance against Altior or Douvan assuming one or the other is near their best. With the market priced how it is I’m even considering going against my urges and just having a watching brief!

[Geordieboy83]

Hope MIN does go here as have a hefty return coming back if wins, gonna have to cover the bet a put a few points on for Ryanair.

[billymag]

Fox Norton got a 172 rpr over 2miles at cheltenham this weekend, with doubts about Altior and Douvan and a pretty weak market, Im trying to find reasons not to back Fox Norton at 8/1. Surely this is too big ? Do people think there is a real possibility that he might get stepped up in trip?

[Kevloaf]

Fox Norton got a 172 rpr over 2miles at cheltenham this weekend, with doubts about Altior and Douvan and a pretty weak market, Im trying to find reasons not to back Fox Norton at 8/1. Surely this is too big ? Do people think there is a real possibility that he might get stepped up in trip?

I think there is just enough doubt that he'll try the king George now the million pound bonus is off the table.

You could hover over the 8s during the tingle creek?

[Scooby91]

I think there is just enough doubt that he'll try the king George now the million pound bonus is off the table.

You could hover over the 8s during the tingle creek?

Should win the tingle creek, pretty confident he'll confirm form over un de sceaux and politologue dosent do near enough at the end of his races. But like you said would you still go king george after winning a tingle creek? not so sure.
I personally think he'd take some beating in a king george.

[BigChaang]

I think there is just enough doubt that he'll try the king George now the million pound bonus is off the table.

You could hover over the 8s during the tingle creek?

I nearly put my last 5 squid on fox norton for the Ch. chs last sunday before the Schlur chase at 14-1 , but instead went with
Faugheen at 6-1 in the C.H .

[Kevloaf]

Should win the tingle creek, pretty confident he'll confirm form over un de sceaux and politologue dosent do near enough at the end of his races. But like you said would you still go king george after winning a tingle creek? not so sure.
I personally think he'd take some beating in a king george.

I had 3 pts at 7s when Altior news was breaking for the tingle creek, but if we have some soft ground I think UDS won't be brushed aside easily (although I do feel like I might just be a bigger fan of UDS than the average) ... but if Tizzard now is calling the shots they don't really have anything to lose by trying it? I'd have a go .... if he doesn't stay then he doesn't stay, but I don't think it'd ruin his season.... I hope they go for it..... with Sizing John not running in the betfair chase, perhaps he'll stay in Ireland over Xmas now too - leaving the door open?

Might Bite, Thistlecrack, Fox Norton, Cue Card .... Tizzard all guns blazing

[Scooby91]

I had 3 pts at 7s when Altior news was breaking for the tingle creek, but if we have some soft ground I think UDS won't be brushed aside easily (although I do feel like I might just be a bigger fan of UDS than the average) ... but if Tizzard now is calling the shots they don't really have anything to lose by trying it? I'd have a go .... if he doesn't stay then he doesn't stay, but I don't think it'd ruin his season.... I hope they go for it..... with Sizing John not running in the betfair chase, perhaps he'll stay in Ireland over Xmas now too - leaving the door open?

Might Bite, Thistlecrack, Fox Norton, Cue Card .... Tizzard all guns blazing

Looks a very good bet at 7s kev.
I know all the potts horses are paid for until retirement, but no idea how much his children would like to be involved in calling the shots.

[Scooby91]

Fox Norton*is set for*the Betfair Tingle Creek at Sandown a fortnight on Saturday, and Tizzard is not ruling out adding*the Champion Chase runner-up to his 32Red King George team on Boxing Day.


Not learned much but it's being considered as you'd fully assume

[billymag]

Cheers guys, going to chance the 8/1 Champ Chase win only, if he doesnt run then so be it. FWIW I think hes much more likely to run in this race and hopefully he it proves right. I dont think Altior will make the race, Nicky increasingly treats his horses like pets and the view im taking is that its odds on that Altior wont run, theres enough horses in the same ownership and stable to cast enough doubt on him running in the Gold Cup and id be 75% sure he will run here if fit which makes Fox Norton a bet, all things considered.

[SAMCRO]

Douvan on the move for the tingle creek at paddy power, been cut significantly today by paddy power. Into 3.3 on the exchange.

UDS been pushed out.

[ComplyOrDie]

Douvan on the move for the tingle creek at paddy power, been cut significantly today by paddy power. Into 3.3 on the exchange.

UDS been pushed out.

I remember this happening last season too....

[SAMCRO]

I remember this happening last season too....

This year seems abit different as to what Paddy Power have done. 8s into 2-1 then 6/4, then pushed out to 4-1 now back into 7/4. I dont take paddys prices too seriously in regards to mullins runners like others but its interesting.

Cant see UDS beating fox norton so it would make sense to send Douvan over to collect The £84k

[Scooby91]

This year seems abit different as to what Paddy Power have done. 8s into 2-1 then 6/4, then pushed out to 4-1 now back into 7/4. I dont take paddys prices too seriously in regards to mullins runners like others but its interesting.

Cant see UDS beating fox norton so it would make sense to send Douvan over to collect The £84k

Plans are always fluid especially with mullins.

[SAMCRO]

Plans are always fluid especially with mullins.

Exactly. I remember few years back paddy were stand out price by a long way on Vautour for JLT. Impossible to be in the know when Mullins doesn't know for sure.