Arkle 2018

[Faugheen_Machine]

PM has been slightly uneasy in the market again overnight. No big prices matched but certainly not as strong as those around him in the betting.

[rule the world]

PM has been slightly uneasy in the market again overnight. No big prices matched but certainly not as strong as those around him in the betting.

there all in pink with betfair and betdaq, has there been any quotes other than HDB saying PM will come on for run

[Kevloaf]

Might be weather related for PM?

Footpad and Saint Calvados almost certainly better off its softer

[Faugheen_Machine]

Might be weather related for PM?

Footpad and Saint Calvados almost certainly better off its softer

That probably explains it Kev.

[rule the world]

Might be weather related for PM?

Footpad and Saint Calvados almost certainly better off its softer

4/6 now for ground being soft, 11/10 good to soft, 7s heavy, looked at weather forecast and think itll be good to soft

[MrMcGoldrick]

Footpad looks to have all the traits needed for this, can't see any holes in his form

[MrMcGoldrick]

PM has been slightly uneasy in the market again overnight. No big prices matched but certainly not as strong as those around him in the betting.

Still has an entry in the jlt, big prices now, 9's nrnb, what do we think about a late switch, can't see it but it's a funny old game at times

[ComplyOrDie]

Still has an entry in the jlt, big prices now, 9's nrnb, what do we think about a late switch, can't see it but it's a funny old game at times

Footpad also still holds an entry, and indeed on the exchanges has been traded 10 x the amount that PM has for the JLT.

I think it is the ground concerns now, although it is not a massive drift on the exchanges.

[Scooby91]

Still has an entry in the jlt, big prices now, 9's nrnb, what do we think about a late switch, can't see it but it's a funny old game at times

He's been a silly price a while now. Should be a lot bigger gap in the odds between him and footpad Imo. The 3- 1 in victorys and coming on for the run is massively over played to me.
In my eyes it's 1-0 footpad. This is the arkle CHASE and will be 2-0 come Tuesday.

[ComplyOrDie]

He's been a silly price a while now. Should be a mug logger gap between him and footpad Imo. The 3- 1im victorys and coming on for the run is massively over played to me.
In my eyes it's 1-0 footpad. This is the arkle CHASE and will be 2-0 come Tuesday.

The ground will aide Footpad too, so my argument for PM won't come to fruition until they meet on better ground, which is what I was expecting tbh. I can see Footpad winning this the softer it gets, if he doesn't and PM somehow beats him then he'll never beat PM again IMO, as these are more his expected optimum conditions.

I'm not adverse to Footpad winning this now, he is more than covered, and in plenty of multiples too, but of course PM is the one I want to win and is also more financially beneficial to me, but PM just placing wouldn't be the end of the world at the prices I have for him!

[Birds Nest]

Might be weather related for PM?

Footpad and Saint Calvados almost certainly better off its softer

I wouldn't be too sure about saint calvados and soft ground, Roman de senam and aux ptit soins come to mind.there a funny bunch them saint horses..

[opatcho]

Really??? ^^

[Kevloaf]

I wouldn't be too sure about saint calvados and soft ground, Roman de senam and aux ptit soins come to mind.there a funny bunch them saint horses..

You have a doubt about Saint Calvados on soft ground?

You'll have to elaborate for me .... he looks PROVEN to be an above average novice chaser on it to me

[rule the world]

You have a doubt about Saint Calvados on soft ground?

You'll have to elaborate for me .... he looks PROVEN to be an above average novice chaser on it to me

If it turns out to be soft (even heavy in places), SC is the 1 I fear most without a doubt, in my opinion totally proven on soft. PM blue now on exchanges, anyway I think this is the race of the festival

[Birds Nest]

Saint calvados goes through soft ground very well and I have no doubt he'll run a decent race , probably to a mark of 155 to 160..What I'm saying is he would be better on better ground, a theory that most of the stable hold too, all but the trainer himself. It's a trait with these prodgeny that crops up more often than not. If he places in this then he could be truly exceptional on normal festival ground, don't get hung up too much on his knee action, it's what his trainers thoughts are based on...