Cheltenham 2018 Ante post bets

[Faugheen_Machine]

Yeah there was FM, on what was wrote you'd think he rates Sayar more than Sharjah.

On Sayar: "He could prove to be top-class" - that was his opening line.

On Sharjah: " He won a maiden hurdle by 5 lengths on heavy ground at Gowran in September and will be staying in novice hurdles" - That was all that was said about him.

Thanks Scooby and CoD - it's appreciated

[Scooby91]

Hollowgraphic champion bumper 25/1
Very good run in the goffs land rover bumper where the form has worked out well, was his only run so far, he's had a summer to strengthen up and any improvement would put him bang there imo. Happy with the price I was thinking he'd open up at 20s max.

Aware I could get 33s but I would have to go in shop.

[ComplyOrDie]

Hollowgraphic champion bumper 25/1
Very good run in the goffs land rover bumper where the form has worked out well, was his only run so far, he's had a summer to strengthen up and any improvement would put him bang there imo. Happy with the price I was thinking he'd open up at 20s max.

Aware I could get 33s but I would have to go in shop.

You got me looking at that bumper, won by Vision Des Flos, a horse, from memory, that you are pretty sweet on I believe?

The form of the horses out of that bumper look rather solid tbf, but I had noticed most of them had been kept to 2m, yet connections of Vision Des Flos decided it would be good to send him out over 2m 3f and worse still 2m 5f on his second start, in pretty tough Grade 2 races!

He looked way keen on his first start, so to finish as close as he did over, what I think is actually an inadequate trip for the horse at this current time, is actually better than the bare result suggests.

The long and short of this post is I don't honestly think he'll see out the Neptune trip, so have taken the plunge and backed him on the exchanges for the Supreme, in the hope the Tizzards are running him over longer to get beat, to keep his price tidy for the Supreme, haha, not skeptical at all me

[Scooby91]

You got me looking at that bumper, won by Vision Des Flos, a horse, from memory, that you are pretty sweet on I believe?

The form of the horses out of that bumper look rather solid tbf, but I had noticed most of them had been kept to 2m, yet connections of Vision Des Flos decided it would be good to send him out over 2m 3f and worse still 2m 5f on his second start, in pretty tough Grade 2 races!

He looked way keen on his first start, so to finish as close as he did over, what I think is actually an inadequate trip for the horse at this current time, is actually better than the bare result suggests.

The long and short of this post is I don't honestly think he'll see out the Neptune trip, so have taken the plunge and backed him on the exchanges for the Supreme, in the hope the Tizzards are running him over longer to get beat, to keep his price tidy for the Supreme, haha, not skeptical at all me

Yeh he was good, early doors in 3rd with rapid escape 4th from memory, looks a strong bumper

And vision des flos they've messed it up for the horse imo. Should have gone for a 2m maiden. Win in the bridle and give him some confidence and build up from there

[ComplyOrDie]

Yeh he was good, early doors in 3rd with rapid escape 4th from memory, looks a strong bumper

And vision des flos they've messed it up for the horse imo. Should have gone for a 2m maiden. Win in the bridle and give him some confidence and build up from there

I'm hoping he was already quite far forward in his work and confident enough that he's now inline for the Supreme after a couple of defeats. Can see him staying on well enough over 2m though, if he does go for the race

[Scooby91]

I'm hoping he was already quite far forward in his work and confident enough that he's now inline for the Supreme after a couple of defeats. Can see him staying on well enough over 2m though, if he does go for the race

The only thing I hope for is a weakish 2 mile maiden hurdle and he would look a complete different horse. I'd send him to another class4 novice under a penalty then go from there.

I can see him going for a competative supreme trial somewhere next. Maybe the tolworth Which would be the wrong way about it Imo.

[ComplyOrDie]

The only thing I hope for is a weakish 2 mile maiden hurdle and he would look a complete different horse. I'd send him to another class4 novice under a penalty then go from there.

I can see him going for a competative supreme trial somewhere next. Maybe the tolworth Which would be the wrong way about it Imo.

Same race FO contested, may want to retain that title for connections I guess. IF he runs in it and wins it he comes back in the reckoning too as a live outside chance.

[Brital]

Without meaning to sound brutal.

Not at all I appreciate you taking the time to explain your reasoning so thoroughly.

You must have been happy to see Jury Duty win yesterday as it boosts the form of BM’s 16 length defeat of him at Cork.

[JackieMoon33]

There seems to be a lot of comments from jockeys over the ground at Cheltenham, especially on the Sunday. This could be something to bear in mind for some of the beaten horses as it would certainly have inconvenienced many horses and this would be backed up by the number of non runners too.

I won't blindly forgive some runs (Dame De Compagnie) as she had form on soft ground in France but I will factor it in for sure.

"We had 12mm of rain yesterday on good to soft ground that's turned it soft and heavy."

The ground was undoubtedly testing after Saturday's downpour – jockey Stan Sheppard described it as "like galloping through PVA glue" – while champion rider Richard Johnson added: "The weather we had yesterday was horrendous and it's got very soft. Unfortunately it's got very tacky today.

[robith]

Was thinking on the lucky 15 I posted in the previous festival form thread. Don't see a point including Melon now Faugheen is back and some of the prices have contracted to not make it as appetising an each way play but still weighing this up as a trixie

JLT - Willoghby Court
RSA - Monalee
GC - Might Bite

FYI for those who missed the thread, this is a play purely going from the work on previous festival form

[paz247]

No mention of Chacun Pour Soi in there either, Riccis horse to follow in OJA book? Never mentioned in interviews yet either? I tweeted Joe Chambers and he said should be out before Christmas so who knows

[Scooby91]

No mention of Chacun Pour Soi in there either, Riccis horse to follow in OJA book? Never mentioned in interviews yet either? I tweeted Joe Chambers and he said should be out before Christmas so who knows

Theres quite a few missing who are fine. Wouldnt worry he cant mention them all especially the ones who haven't ran over here
2 of Which are juveniles.
Stormy ireland and rich ricci' s only juvenile hurdler saldier.

Said a few times now. But beware of backing arctic fire atm.

[Kevloaf]

No mention of Chacun Pour Soi in there either, Riccis horse to follow in OJA book? Never mentioned in interviews yet either? I tweeted Joe Chambers and he said should be out before Christmas so who knows

Patrick Mullins, On The Line with Chapman said he isn't going to be out too soon... did say he was a Ricci Novice Hurdler... but didn't seem to be that aware of him lol

[ComplyOrDie]

Patrick Mullins, On The Line with Chapman said he isn't going to be out too soon... did say he was a Ricci Novice Hurdler... but didn't seem to be that aware of him lol

Pretty sure Patrick got that wrong, didn't think he had Novice Hurdle status anymore?

[Kevloaf]

Pretty sure Patrick got that wrong, didn't think he had Novice Hurdle status anymore?

Yeah liek I said, he seemed a little clueless haha.

I missed the comments on Yorkhill?.....