Cheltenham 2018 Ante post bets

[jono]

Talking of Cause of Causes being a possible 'banker', I do wonder if Elliott might look at his 2 star mares in Apples Jade and Fayonagh and look to give them the easier targets at the festival. One of the reasons Mullins has been able to be top trainer in so many of the most recent festivals is because he has been able to farm some races year on year.

If you were to take Cause of Causes in the Cross Country, Apples Jade in The Mares and Fayonagh in the Mares Novice it's very hard to see any horse beat them for favouritism or for them not to turn up with a very very strong chance in each race which could give Elliott his best chance of getting 3 wins at the festival before you go into the grade 1's and handicaps.

With that in mind, is the 6/1 on offer with Betfair for the Mares Novice a price worth taking for Fayonagh? Only 5 firms have the raced priced up yet but it's hard to think anyone will go bigger.

She needs to transfer her bumper form over hurdles but she was a level above all last year. In the past Mullins has been the one to farm the Mares races and you know he will have a good few mares to line up the race but Fayonagh does look something special. She did of course take on the boys in both Spring Festival bumpers so you'd think connections wouldn't be fazed in targeting the Neptune or Supreme however Elliott looks to have a strong hand in that regard already with Blow by Blow and particularly Samcro who I think would be the most likely for those races.

We've never really had 'Gordon Elliott Bingo' before but with him winning top trainer at the last festival and coming so close to the Irish trainers title I wonder if it could start coming into play...

[ryanh97]

I agree with that Jono. I think I posted on here after Fayonagh's bumper win about where she was likely to go and the general thought was the Mares Novices. Since then many good things have been said on here and elsewhere about Samcro. The Mares Novices could easily be the option for her and she wouldn't be 6/1 on the Thursday

[jono]

Everybody has probably seen this already but:
“We’ve got some to come out, but I’d say there’s one that I like called CHACUN POUR SOI . He was very impressive in France and he could be a novice chaser this year – he’s one to keep an eye on.”

Many won't take much notice of Ricci but always good to hear some updates from him for me. Few interesting snippets there particularly that Douvan was never quite right last year.

Chacun Pour Soi has been added to the tracker. I see his last race was behind King's Socks, who i'm right in thinking is a very well regarded horse? And now with David Pipe. (He was 14/1 for the Betvictor Gold Cup last year in the antepost markets at one stage)

[jono]

Haha solid drubk bets those Kev. Might aswell round it to 10pts and have a 1.5pt double on Cause of Causes and Buveur D'air at 49/1.

Sound advice that

I agree with that Jono. I think I posted on here after Fayonagh's bumper win about where she was likely to go and the general thought was the Mares Novices. Since then many good things have been said on here and elsewhere about Samcro. The Mares Novices could easily be the option for her and she wouldn't be 6/1 on the Thursday

Yeah, as much as it would be good to see her take on the boys in either the Supreme or Neptune I would think it would be the most likely. Much may depend on Blow by Blow who has some doubts after injury? Certainly wouldn't be near 6/1 on the day if she lined up. Mullins may prevent her being so short but could easily be a shade odds on

[ryanh97]

Sound advice that

Might have 2pts on it myself

[Kevloaf]

219/1 with 365... for the Gordon Elliott 'Easy Target' treble.... Fayonah may run in the mares novice race because Codd will want as many winners as he can too! I appreciate he wouldn't be out of place in the Supreme/Neptune BUT, he is on 6 winners at the festival and as a part owner (I think) of Fayonah, I think he'll want the WIN! It isn't like her novice hurdling career is the be-all-and-end-all anyway...

1 pt e/w trixie (8 pts total) would be 28pts if they all placed, and 365 pts for the win tempting indeed!

***Apples Jade and Fayonah for the Elliott mares double... as much as I am a fan of VVM and Limini, AJ should improve too and sets the standard doesn't she?.... multiple winners aren't exactly rare in the race...

6/1 is standout with BF for Fayonagh as you say and its a 27/1 double.... I can certainly see the logic.



Somebody stop me


By the way, the 49/1 double on BvD and CoC I already have 2 pts on... plus they are the main two in at least 5 yankee's haha

[ryanh97]

By the way, the 49/1 double on BvD and CoC I already have 2 pts on... plus they are the main two in at least 5 yankee's haha

About to pop 2 pts on myself. What are said yankee's? By the way Kev clear some messages trying to PM you haha

[Kevloaf]

About to pop 2 pts on myself. What are said yankee's? By the way Kev clear some messages trying to PM you haha

Done - sorry - never think to check there.

The yankee's are pretty much combinations of:

Buveur D'air, Cause of Causes, Our Duke and then anything else, Nichols Canyon, Altior, Apples Jade snook in to one...

[ryanh97]

Done - sorry - never think to check there.

The yankee's are pretty much combinations of:

Buveur D'air, Cause of Causes, Our Duke and then anything else, Nichols Canyon, Altior, Apples Jade snook in to one...

Some good yankees there. Buveur D'air, CoC and Nichols Canyon trixie. Sounds good to me

[Kevloaf]

Anyone have any thoughts in Mystic Theatre? Novice hurdler for Mullins (same owner as Killultagh Vic) and won 3 hurdle races (albeit at odds on each time) over the last month or so on the bridle. I see she is 16/1 for the mares novice race - Ruby rode her last time and said

“She travelled well, she jumped very well. I suppose on form, on past performances, she was entitled to win. I couldn’t be happier with how she did it.”

When asked about Down Royal as a destination for the Festival of Racing in early November, he replied: “You would have to think so for a filly that has won three. That’s where you would be hoping you would end up.

“It’s the first weekend in November and we are only at the end of August so we have all of September and October so I imagine she’ll go somewhere in the middle.

“There doesn’t seem to be any need to go up in trip. She has plenty of gears.”

The reason I am interested her, and particularly the 16/1 quotes, are because two of the 3 races she won so far, we're won by Airlie Beach in 2016... who was my main fancy for the Mares Novice race before Let's Dance got drafted in....

[Leman14]

I'd be amazed if Samcro isn't in the 40. He gets an interview with Ricci so it will be highly informative if Annamix makes the 40 also.

Just topped up on Samcro - Any Race (2pts) and Annamix - Supreme (1pt)

Does anyone know when Mark Howards book will be sent out? CAN'T WAIT!

[Faugheen_Machine]

According to his website it'll be dispatched early this week. I'm hoping it lands through the door on Wednesday.

[Faugheen_Machine]

Had a little more on Cause of Causes today.

Finians Oscar / Buveur D'air / Altior treble also placed.

[ryanh97]

Had a little more on Cause of Causes today.

Finians Oscar / Buveur D'air / Altior treble also placed.

What race for Finians Oscar FM?

[Faugheen_Machine]

The Arkle Ryan.