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  • #16
    Originally posted by Jonnymac05 View Post
    PR Irish rating is 139 so i would think Smith will assess at maybe 144/145. what would you think of this rating Jackie?
    I think the Wholestone and West Approach form is very strong so I would be happy with anything below 145 for Peregrine Run.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Jonnymac05 View Post
      PR Irish rating is 139 so i would think Smith will assess at maybe 144/145. what would you think of this rating Jackie?
      The arbitrariness of the UK handicapping makes it difficult to guess. In the Ascot race that Brain Power won Golden Spear, Pyromaniac and Quick Jack all ran off, pretty much, their Irish ratings but Waxie's Dargle ran off a rating 5-6 pounds higher. Similarly, in the Betfair, Veinard's mark was 3lbs higher and De Name Escapes Me was 5 lbs higher. Peregrine Run was given a provisional mark of 141 when he ran at Warwick and, if that is indicative of the UK's assessor's rating pre-race, then his current mark should be pretty close to that. Willoughby Court is rated 144 and was in receipt of 3lbs from PR and beat him by 9.5 lengths - which suggests 141 is about right.
      We will know on Wednesday!
      Last edited by Bayoffreedom; 25 February 2017, 01:25 PM.

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      • #18
        Latest on Peregrine Run

        Peter Fahey is leaning towards the Coral Cup with Peregrine Run if conditions are suitable at the Cheltenham Festival next month.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Bayoffreedom View Post
          The arbitrariness of the UK handicapping makes it difficult to guess. In the Ascot race that Brain Power won Golden Spear, Pyromaniac and Quick Jack all ran off, pretty much, their Irish ratings but Waxie's Dargle ran off a rating 5-6 pounds higher. Similarly, in the Betfair, Veinard's mark was 3lbs higher and De Name Escapes Me was 5 lbs higher. Peregrine Run was given a provisional mark of 141 when he ran at Warwick and, if that is indicative of the UK's assessor's rating pre-race, then his current mark should be pretty close to that. Willoughby Court is rated 144 and was in receipt of 3lbs from PR and beat him by 9.5 lengths - which suggests 141 is about right.
          We will know on Wednesday!
          My bad, for some reason I thought PR would have been bumped up after the WA performance behind UNWIMH. I should have checked his OR before commenting. Bring on PR for this race.

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          • #20
            Key to Peregrine Run is the ground. Something close to good and the Coral should be perfect as he travels so well. He ran well despite the ground at Warwick.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by kinloch brae View Post
              Key to Peregrine Run is the ground. Something close to good and the Coral should be perfect as he travels so well. He ran well despite the ground at Warwick.
              Fahey pretty much said as much, if it came up soft they'd bypass Cheltenham....

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              • #22
                Peregrine Run allocated 10-08

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Cashew King View Post
                  Peregrine Run allocated 10-08
                  Needs 11 to come out

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Cashew King View Post
                    Peregrine Run allocated 10-08
                    Rating is more important to me than the weight. Do you know this?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Cashew King View Post
                      Peregrine Run allocated 10-08
                      Rating is more important to me than the weight. Do you know this?

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                      • #26
                        And me Jackie. Disappointed (and a bit surprised( they aren't published on this document.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post
                          Rating is more important to me than the weight. Do you know this?
                          Modus is rated 156 and has been allocated 11.8 so, on that basis, Peregrine Run is rated 142 (pretty much where he was provisionally rated prior to Warwick). Lovely racing weight

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                          • #28
                            Almost definitely 142 bearing in mind Born Survivor, River Frost and Gibralfaro are all rated 143 and a pound higher in the weights.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
                              Almost definitely 142 bearing in mind Born Survivor, River Frost and Gibralfaro are all rated 143 and a pound higher in the weights.
                              Yeah I went through the same process and used the UK horses as benchmarks to calculate the Irish marks I was interested in.

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                              • #30
                                Price collapsing

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