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  • Originally posted by Wainright View Post
    16/1 NRNB Could look a big price come 14thMarch.
    Absolutely, especially as it looks like the target with the National out of the picture!
    I did take 16 NRNB a few weeks ago, a little surprised the price has held really.

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    • Originally posted by jono View Post
      Weights won't be out for another week of course but here's the lowest OR needed to get in from the last 3 festivals for each of the handicap races:

      Tuesday - Ultima

      2016 - 131
      2015 - 133
      2014 - 129

      Tuesday - Novice Chase

      2016 - 136
      2015 - 135
      2014 - 132


      Wednesday - Coral Cup

      2016 - 139
      2015 - 138
      2014 - 135

      Wednesday - Pertemps

      2016 - 128
      2015 - 129
      2014 - 127


      Thursday - Pertemps

      2016 - 135
      2015 - 135
      2014 - 135

      Thursday - Plate

      2016 - 135
      2015 - 137
      2014 - 131

      Thursday - Kim Muir

      2016 - 134
      2015 - 130
      2014 - 131


      Friday - County

      2016 - 138
      2015 - 134
      2014 - 132

      Friday - Martin Pipe

      2016 - 135
      2015 - 135
      2014 - 133

      Friday - Grand Annual

      2016 - 137
      2015 - 130
      2014 - 136
      Here's the lowest OR needed to get in from the last 3 festivals for each of the handicap races : winning rating in brackets

      Tuesday - Ultima

      2016 - 131 (148)
      2015 - 133 (146)
      2014 - 129 (145)

      Tuesday - Novice Chase

      2016 - 136 (140)
      2015 - 135 (137)
      2014 - 132 (137)

      Wednesday - Coral Cup

      2016 - 139 (149)
      2015 - 138 (139)
      2014 - 135 (153)

      Wednesday- Fred Winter

      2016 - 128 (133)
      2015 - 129 (131)
      2014 - 127 (130)

      Thursday - Pertemps

      2016 - 135 (139)
      2015 - 135 (138)
      2014 - 135 (148)

      Thursday - Plate

      2016 - 135 (142)
      2015 - 137 (140)
      2014 - 131 (140)

      Thursday - Kim Muir

      2016 - 134 (142)
      2015 - 130 (137)
      2014 - 131 (138)

      Friday - County

      2016 - 138 (138)
      2015 - 134 (138)
      2014 - 132 (139)

      Friday - Martin Pipe

      2016 - 135 (139)
      2015 - 135 (135)
      2014 - 133 (143)

      Friday - Grand Annual

      2016 - 137 (140)
      2015 - 130 (143)
      2014 - 136 (147)

      Updated for winning ratings..

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      • Without having to look through all the entries of the Kim Muir in depth, does anyone have any initial thoughts as to what Codd will ride?
        Does he tend to just ride the horse with the best chance? Does he have a loyalty to any particular trainer in this? does he tend to ride horses that he has ridden before?
        Trying to use the Codd angle to grab a decent price NRNB before Jocks are confirmed...

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        • Doctor Harper could be a possiblity. He rode The Package in the Kim Muir a couple of years ago for the same connections.

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          • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post
            Doctor Harper could be a possiblity. He rode The Package in the Kim Muir a couple of years ago for the same connections.
            Thanks FM - was also talked about a great deal last year

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            • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post
              Doctor Harper could be a possiblity. He rode The Package in the Kim Muir a couple of years ago for the same connections.
              There was also some good money around earlier in the year for DH I think, can't remember if it was this race or not though, but whichever it was it seems connections had money down nice and early. Codd booking would be massive too.

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              • Gordon Elliott would be another trainer who he could ride for. Not sure what he has entered without checking.

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                • Originally posted by Leman14 View Post
                  Without having to look through all the entries of the Kim Muir in depth, does anyone have any initial thoughts as to what Codd will ride?
                  Does he tend to just ride the horse with the best chance? Does he have a loyalty to any particular trainer in this? does he tend to ride horses that he has ridden before?
                  Trying to use the Codd angle to grab a decent price NRNB before Jocks are confirmed...
                  The main stable he is attached to is Gordon Elliott so if he has a well handicapped runner then that will be his first choice. After that I think the Pipes are next in line as they have a connection with Elliott and are also good for a handicap plot. Outside of those two I guess it's down to his own judgement and who can 'sell' him a ride on their horse.

                  Remember, the Amateurs don't get many chances in the spotlight so I'm sure they're all selfish with regards to riding the best chance possible regardless of the trainer or owner.

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                  • Doctor Harper went off at 4/1F in this last year but unseated when beaten. Ran off 141 last year and he's back on that mark now.

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                    • Originally posted by HardyEustace View Post
                      Doctor Harper went off at 4/1F in this last year but unseated when beaten. Ran off 141 last year and he's back on that mark now.
                      Yep, a very poor run HE. That run was that bad and enough to put me off.

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                      • Elliott Entries:
                        Definite Ruby
                        General Principle
                        Rightdownthemiddle
                        Squouateur
                        Stone Hard
                        Tiger Roll

                        Pipe Entries:
                        Champers On Ice
                        Father Edward
                        La Vaticane
                        Monetaire
                        Top Wood
                        What a Moment

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                        • With Master Blue Eyes winning the Adonis, Divin Bere is looking very well treated in the Fred Winter off 137. He might be higher in the weights than the trends would like but the winning mark is increasing over the years. If Campeador had not fallen at the last hurdle last year, we could have had a winner off 142.

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                          • Presenting Percy just blown his handicap mark as well. Strange choice for him to run today. Master Blueyes was understandable but not sure why PP would run less than 3 weeks from the festival.

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                            • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post
                              Presenting Percy just blown his handicap mark as well. Strange choice for him to run today. Master Blueyes was understandable but not sure why PP would run less than 3 weeks from the festival.
                              Davy must not have got the memo

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                              • I'm sure he'll get a fair lump of weight after that performance. I think a few on here have got him at 20/1 so at least we'll get a run for our money.

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