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  • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post
    He was on the radar after he got given an English mark of 137 when entered over the trials weekend. However, his Irish mark has now been amended to 142 so he might now struggle to get in below the ceiling of 145. Very frustrating.
    What is the limit JM?

    Sorry, just noticed you said 145
    Last edited by loveracing; 21 February 2017, 09:30 AM.

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    • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post
      Mall Dini has been dropped one pound by the Irish handicapper to 141 after his 'effort' over the weekend. I doubt very much Phil Smith will pay too much attention to that and I still expect him to be no lower than 145 come Cheltenham.
      What do you think he will get? 8lbs? (Might have added a couple on for beating him last year?)

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      • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
        What do you think he will get? 8lbs? (Might have added a couple on for beating him last year?)
        Really difficult to say to be honest. He won the Pertemps off 139 so his revised UK Hurdle rating would be in the mid to high 140's. I really don't think he'll be cut much slack compared to that rating over fences which leads me to believe he'll get something like 146 if I had to stick my neck out.

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        • Apologies, if someone has already mentioned it but is Jury Duty qualified for the Pertemps? Appears to have a quote from all bookmakers.

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          • Originally posted by kinloch brae View Post
            Apologies, if someone has already mentioned it but is Jury Duty qualified for the Pertemps? Appears to have a quote from all bookmakers.
            Not yet, but there's one qualifier to be run a Chepstow on Saturday which this one has an entry...

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            • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post
              Not yet, but there's one qualifier to be run a Chepstow on Saturday which this one has an entry...
              Thanks, I have backed him NRNB. Nothing lost if he blows out but they must have this race in mind.

              For all his qualities and the potential story Tobefair is now a very short price.

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              • Dreamcatching could be an interesting runner in the Fred Winter for Paul Nichols. Won well at the weekend at Wincanton. Dreamcatching had his debut for the yard in the same race Charli Parcs ran in at Kempton over Christmas and although well beaten - he was a 5/1 shot so was reasonably backed that day. Ran well for a long way until seeming to tire and finished a well beaten 40 lengths back but Nichols has since come out and said he wasn't right that day.

                A race that Nichols has excelled in over the last few years - had the 1-2 in 2016 and 2015 and 4 placed in the 2 years before that. Dreamcatching had his debut for the yard in the same race Charli Parcs ran in at Kempton over Christmas

                Has an OR of 131 which should get him into the race fine (128 last year and 129 2015) and on a similar mark to his recent horses in the race and was mentioned by Nichols at Ascot Saturday evening:

                If Dreamcatching gets in the Fred Winter won't be there to make up the numbers
                And also in his stable tour today:

                He entered the equation for Cheltenham after winning at Wincanton on Saturday. He has an entry in the Fred Winter and a mark of 131. We've won the race for the last two seasons and back in 2015 our horse won off 131 and last year off 133 so he's around the right mark. He won a bumper in France last summer and was third on his debut at Auteuil. We fancied him at Kempton over Christmas but he ran very free and didn't get home. He wasn't right at the time either, we hadn't had him long and he wasn't properly acclimatised. He was much better on Saturday where he bolted in and looked progressive.
                Can't be ignored for the shortlist from a trainer who knows exactly what it takes to have a winner/placed horse in the race.

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                • Interesting comment from PJ Hobbs last night on Attheraces. Brother Tedd for the novice handicap on Tuesday. Can't see why, but always interested in that kind of comment from a trainer. Worth a look and a wager, as a hopeless race for me.

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                  • Originally posted by jono View Post
                    Dreamcatching could be an interesting runner in the Fred Winter for Paul Nichols. Won well at the weekend at Wincanton. Dreamcatching had his debut for the yard in the same race Charli Parcs ran in at Kempton over Christmas and although well beaten - he was a 5/1 shot so was reasonably backed that day. Ran well for a long way until seeming to tire and finished a well beaten 40 lengths back but Nichols has since come out and said he wasn't right that day.

                    A race that Nichols has excelled in over the last few years - had the 1-2 in 2016 and 2015 and 4 placed in the 2 years before that. Dreamcatching had his debut for the yard in the same race Charli Parcs ran in at Kempton over Christmas

                    Has an OR of 131 which should get him into the race fine (128 last year and 129 2015) and on a similar mark to his recent horses in the race and was mentioned by Nichols at Ascot Saturday evening:



                    And also in his stable tour today:



                    Can't be ignored for the shortlist from a trainer who knows exactly what it takes to have a winner/placed horse in the race.
                    The market has reacted accordingly

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                    • Ah yes - didn't actually look at the odds until now. Hardly surprising based on the trainers remarks the last few days. Could well be fav after the weekend if Charli Parcs hacks up too

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                      • Yeah a confirmed Nicholls runner in the Fred Winter has to be respected.

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                        • 10/1 *sick everywhere*
                          What price will it go off though?

                          Qualando was outsider of his 3 or 4 the year he won it wasn't he?

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                          • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                            10/1 *sick everywhere*
                            What price will it go off though?

                            Qualando was outsider of his 3 or 4 the year he won it wasn't he?
                            And Romain De Senam was a whisker away from winning last year at a big price too.

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                            • Im also very sweet on Nichols El Bandit for the pertempts.

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                              • Handicap entries out today and I'm stuck at Euro Disney queuing to see Micky Mouse! Arrrgghhhh

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