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A bit worrying for us Wholestone supporters after what Carl Llewellyn said..CL – Wholestone lacks the class for this race. He has had a problem since his last run.
I hope he's telling porkies and maybe just fishing for a bigger price, but he's pretty close to NTD, so it's a concern for sure.
With two weeks to go until the start of the 2017 Cheltenham Festival (14-17 March), Betfair has partnered with the Mirror Online (Mirror.co.uk) to host a live expert panel webcast on this year’s races.
Hosted tonight at the Trinity Mirror offices (Canada Square London), Betfair ‘Racing Ambassadors’ and renowned racehorse trainers’ Paul Nicholls and Gordon Elliot will discuss all things Cheltenham, giving viewers opinion, advice and tips on 2017 Festival runners.
Nicholls and Elliot will be joined by racing broadcaster and author Kevin Blake, a contributor and tipster for AtTheRaces.com, with the panel being further supported by The Daily Mirror’s racing editor David Yates.
The expert panel webcast will be chaired by Gary O’Brien from At The Races, with the Betfair broadcast beginning at 7.30pm. Viewers will be allowed to access the content via the Mirror Online sports hub (mirror.co.uk/sports).
Yorkhill is the only one of those that I am interested in as he'll not be those odds, even when the bookies push him out in the morning of the race. Unfortunately max of £50 per account holder.
Preview night in Cork
Panel : Enda Bolger (EB), Nina Carberry (NC) , Tony Mullins (TM)
Supreme Novices
TM -> Has a friend that does sectionals and said Bunk Off Early’s sectionals were ‘amazing’. Melon too inexperienced. Moon Racer the reliable one
NC -> Very negative about Melons jumping
EB -> Very sweet on Moon Racer (Mentions course form not for the only time tonight) will get up the hill
Arkle
All the panel select Altior, Tony Mullins gives an each-way shout for Charbel then goes off on a tangent defending Nico De Boinville as a jockey re ride he gave Coneygree…
Champion Hurdle
EB -> Yanworth a funny horse to get a handle on but has been laid out for this race
NC -> Likes Petit Mouchoir but sees the value at 14/1 about Tombstone
TM -> Absolutely says Limini wins!! equates her to Faugheen!!!! BUT says she’s at her best fresh and is not sure that the race against Apples Jade isn’t too close to the festival. Says Yanworth won’t beat the ambulance home, ran like a piebald the last day !!!
Mares Hurdle
First all NO mention of Limini!!
NC -> Willie wins bu Vroum Vroum not at 100% after last race
TM -> Backed up what Nina said re last time out saying Vroom Vroom and a bad blood count. Says at her age Apples Jade has had too many hard races this season
EB - > Vroom Vroom Mag
NH Chase
NC -> If she could ride one in it - Alpha Des Obeaux. Agenieinabottle a leary lazy type but has been aimed at this
TM -> Mouse always has then ready
EB -> Edwulf the pick of JP’s and Derek O’Connor rides
Neptune
Not much was discussed about the Neptune, Tony Mullins liked Bacardys and then went off on a tangent about how people were doubting how successful Willie would be this year, he reckoned he will have a ‘savage year’
Champion Chase
Douvan has to fall twice to lose this. Not a whole lot of time spent.
Cross Country
EB -> Cantlow was 18lbs worse off last time out against the French horse meets on level weights. Gave Cause Of Causes as a dark horse, Mark Walsh has the choice (Cantlow/Auvergnat) Adrian Heskin rides the other and Derek O’Connor definitely rides Colour Squadron
NC -> Cantlow a worthy fave but very competitive, gave Usuel Smurfer as a big price that won’t be far away.
TM -> Enda wins
Bumper
EB -> Connections very sweet on Western Ryder
TM -> Says Carter McKay is Willie’s best but questioned its tail-carriage last time out.
NC -> Mentioned a horse of Jonjo’s that won at Chepstow last time out… have to google that one
It was mentioned that of all the horses Willie lost to Gigginstown, Blow By Blow was the one he would miss most
JLT
TM -> Yorkhill the bet of the meeting
NC -> likes Disko but not good enough here
EB -> Yorkhill loves going left, Ruby hugs the rail the whole way round
Ryanair
At this point Un De Sceaux’s owner came up to the stage. Waxed lyrical about UDS but!!!! said he will NOT WIN IF THE GROUND IS GOOD!!!! Also said forecast is for rain for the next 10 days there so was optimistic BUT when he said about the ground you could hear a pin drop!!
NC -> Said that that owners run Empire Of Dirt here could be a tip in itself
TM -> Dismissed bounce factor with Uxizandre said its been trained with race in mind
Stayers
All of the panel keen on Uknowhatimeanharry
TM-> commented that he reckons Nichols Canyon is gone at the game,
NC -> Not much of an Irish threat in this
EB -> Said Barry Geraghty holds UNWIMH in highest regard
Mares Novice
Panel split here
NC -> No faults in Airlie Beach and can’t see it beaten
TM -> Lets Dance has the proven class and Airlie Beach is just an improver so far
EB -> Would love to see Airlie Beach win as a shout out to Kilbeggan
TM -> Never underestimate the strength of a second season novice
Triumph
TM -> No fxxxing interest!! can never work it out !! move on
NC -> Master Blueness impressed her last time out.
EB -> Loves Defi as a course and distance winner and said Barry Geraghty was very sweet
Take this with a pinch a salt but someone on the panel said that Charles Byrnes had said that Defi Du seuil was a BANKER!!
Albert Barlett
Got the panels interest big time as a great race!!
TM -> Hopes Death Duty wins, also gave Penhill as a horse that bled at Killarney and then came out next time and won by half the track
NC -> Thinks the world of Death Duty
EB -> Knows Death Duty well. Best of Irish staying novices, ticks all the boxes
Gold Cup
NC -> An open Gold Cup but very keen on Native River but it has had a hard season
TM -> Native River a bit to find on ratings!! Couldn’t believe what Paddy Brennan did with Cue Card last year, to have him switched off most of the way around and then pull him out and set him alight 3 from home!! No for Outlander. Don Poli to finish 3rd, 4th or 5th
EB -> Likes Native River but really fancies Djakadam
Fox hunters
EB -> On The Fringe like a pet to him, is there to be shot at but is spot on after the blow-out at Leopardstown last time out.
Panel -> Huge negative for Wonderful Charm on account of its wind problem…
End gave Staker Wallace as a hunter to watch for the future..
Handicap Bets
EB -> Whatever Jamie Codd rides in the Kim Muir
NC -> Southfield Royale
NAPS
TM -> Yorkhill
NC -> Death Duty
EB -> Death Duty
Value Bet
TM -> Bunk Off Early
EB -> Whatever Jamie Codd rides in the Kim Muir
Charity Bets
Came after questions and all the panel agreed how quick Cheltenham dries out so pay special attention to going and weather
TM -> Yorkhill
NC -> Death Duty
EB -> Djakadam
It was amazing tonight how every time Enda Bolger spoke the bar quietened down!! Was very humble re getting last years Cross Country after Any Currency was DQ’ed, said they were beaten by the better horse
If your ever in Cork and like your racing, this is definitely one of the better preview nights!! Kudos all round .
Snapped up 5/2 on Yorkhill, the rest are to be dodged! good preview i thought...
Yorkhill boost was good, all 4 boosts were clearly ones that had questions whether they be on jumping/age. Some good laughs aswell. I echo that thought - good preview!
Agreed. I really enjoyed it, especially when they were giving Dave Yates stick about CP.
Kevin Blake brings a lot to these previews and I could listen to him talk about racing all day - which is just as well because some of the FFP nearly last all bloody day
Gary O'Brien is a great host. Kept it moving along nicely.
Is everyone backing The Storyteller for the Martin Pipe then ? When I looked at the weights I thought Coral Hurdle might come into play but not after that.
Any thoughts if Ball D'Arc will run anywhere - GE said he had nothing for Johnny Henderson.
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