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2016 Novices Handicap Chase

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  • #16
    Originally posted by Istabraq View Post
    When I saw the betting that one immediately appealed to me but he couldn't win last year off 134 and this more than any of the handicaps surely goes to an unexposed progressive type, not a horse with 10 chase starts to his name ?
    Age and runs a negative. Festival form - 2nd to Don Poli and Irish Cavalier a positive.

    This race is usually won by best horse in it ( ignore the weights) and one that will be running in graded races after it. Does Thomas Crapper fit the bill ?

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    • #17
      Out Sam
      A horse I’m excited about. He’s in the RSA and JLT but he’ll also be in three of the handicaps. I think he’d be competitive in the RSA, but he’s got a mark of 139 after his Newbury win so I’d be silly not to look at handicaps. I don’t think we’ve seen anything yet – better ground will see him at his best.

      Aloomomo
      He’ll probably be in same handicap chases as Out Sam and then we’ll see how the ground goes. He’s been very progressive, winning his last three chases, and then did as well as we expected over hurdles at Ascot on Saturday. He hadn’t run since the Hennessy meeting so we wanted to knock the cobwebs away and I was happy with him. I think there’s plenty left – he’s still relatively young.

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      • #18
        The Close Brothers Novices’ Handicap Chase
        Listed, £65,000 Total Prize Fund. Cheltenham, 5.30pm, Tuesday, March 15, two miles and four and a half furlongs (2m 4f 78yds). For novice five-year-olds and upwards rated 0-140. Penalties: after February 28, a winner of a chase 5lb. No penalty to increase a horse’s weight above 11st 10lb. Entries closed February 23 (68 entries), entries released February 25, weights revealed March 2. Six-day confirmation stage March 9, final declaration stage 10.00am, March 14. Maximum field of 20.

        Horse Age Owner Trainer
        ALL TOGETHER (FR) 5 Mrs Z Wentworth Johnny Farrelly
        ALOOMOMO (FR) 6 The Large G & T Partnership Warren Greatrex
        ALTIEPIX (FR) 6 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE
        AMORE ALATO 7 Mrs Sarah Faulks Johnny Farrelly
        ASTIGOS (FR) 9 A Brooks Venetia Williams
        BALLYALTON (IRE) 9 John Westwood Ian Williams
        BALLYBOLLEY (IRE) 7 Simon Munir & Isaac Souede Nigel Twiston-Davies
        BALLYKAN 6 Simon Munir & Isaac Souede Nigel Twiston-Davies
        BISHOPSLOUGH (IRE) 8 Barry Connell Alan Fleming IRE
        BLAIR PERRONE (IRE) 7 John Breslin Tony Martin IRE
        BODEGA 8 Paul Williams Ian Williams
        BOUVREUIL (FR) 5 Chris Giles & Potensis Bloodstock Ltd Paul Nicholls
        BRIDGETS PET (IRE) 9 Barry Connell Alan Fleming IRE
        BUCKHORN TIMOTHY 7 The Buckhorn Racing Team Colin Tizzard
        CAPTAIN VON TRAPPE (IRE) 7 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE
        CENTRAL FLAME 8 Messrs F T Walton James Walton
        DEEP TROUBLE (IRE) 9 Lady Jane Grosvenor Ben Case
        DOMESDAY BOOK (USA) 6 Mrs S J Brookhouse Henry de Bromhead IRE
        DOUBLE SHUFFLE (IRE) 6 Crossed Fingers Partnership Tom George
        EMPRESARIO (IRE) 7 B J Hooper Matthew J Smith IRE
        FIVE IN A ROW (IRE) 8 P J Martin Brian Ellison
        FOURTH ACT (IRE) 7 Wendy & Malcolm Hezel Colin Tizzard
        FREE EXPRESSION (IRE) 7 J P McManus Gordon Elliott IRE
        FULL SHIFT (FR) 7 J P McManus Nicky Henderson
        GERMANY CALLING (IRE) 7 Tyrone Hanlon Charlie Longsdon
        GOLDEN DOYEN (GER) 5 Merry Old Souls Philip Hobbs
        HEPIJEU (FR) 5 Countrywide Vehicle Rentals Taxi Hire Charlie Longsdon
        IMAGINE THE CHAT 7 J P McManus Rebecca Curtis
        JAVERT (IRE) 7 Axom LII Emma Lavelle
        JAYO TIME (IRE) 7 S R Holt & Mrs B M Ayres Kerry Lee
        JOHNNY OG 7 THanlon MBoothright SHanlon NMartin Martin Keighley
        KALANE (IRE) 7 Paul Murphy Charlie Longsdon
        KATACHENKO (IRE) 7 Trevor Hemmings Donald McCain
        KATGARY (FR) 6 Andrea & Graham Wylie Paul Nicholls
        KILLALA QUAY 9 Richard & Mrs Susan Perkins Charlie Longsdon
        KILLER CROW (IRE) 7 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE
        KILRONAN HIGH (IRE) 7 Mrs J K Powell Nigel Twiston-Davies
        LORD SCOUNDREL (IRE) 7 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE
        MCKINLEY 6 Gigginstown House Stud Willie Mullins IRE
        MINELLA PRESENT (IRE) 7 Mrs Jane Gerard-Pearse Neil Mulholland
        MONKSLAND (IRE) 9 Mrs Patricia Hunt Noel Meade IRE
        MOUNT GUNNERY 8 Clipper Logistics Group Ltd Pat Fahy IRE
        MYSTIFIABLE 8 Graham and Alison Jelley Fergal O'Brien
        NICKNAME EXIT (FR) 6 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE
        NOBLE ENDEAVOR (IRE) 7 Chris Jones Gordon Elliott IRE
        ON TOUR (IRE) 8 T Hywel Jones Evan Williams
        ORBASA (FR) 5 Potensis Bloodstock Limited Paul Nicholls
        OUT SAM 7 Swanee River Partnership Warren Greatrex
        PAIROFBROWNEYES (IRE) 7 Fibbage Syndicate Barry Murphy IRE
        PORT MELON (IRE) 8 Graham Roach Paul Nicholls
        PORTWAY FLYER (IRE) 8 Patrick Kelly Ian Williams
        PRESSURIZE (IRE) 10 Mrs Sarah Williams Venetia Williams
        RACING PULSE (IRE) 7 Carl Hinchy Rebecca Curtis
        RELENTLESS DREAMER (IRE) 7 Nigel Morris Rebecca Curtis
        REZORBI (FR) 5 Sean O'Driscoll and Michael O'Flynn Jonjo O'Neill
        SAMBREMONT (FR) 6 Shanakiel Racing Syndicate Willie Mullins IRE
        SPECIAL CATCH (IRE) 9 Mike Browne & William McKeown Keith Reveley
        THE SOCIETY MAN (IRE) 9 Alan Mann Michael Chapman
        THOMAS BROWN 7 The Corse Lawners Harry Fry

        THOMAS CRAPPER 9 Apisukcom Robin Dickin
        TWELVE ROSES 8 Jones Broughtons Wilson Weaver Kim Bailey
        UNIC DE BERSY (FR) 8 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE
        VIKEKHAL (FR) 7 N J Roach Gary Moore
        WALDORF SALAD 8 Alan Parker Venetia Williams
        WESTERNERS SON (IRE) 8 Michael J Slattery/Karl Slattery Dermot McLoughlin IRE
        WILLOW'S SAVIOUR 9 Triple F Partnership Dan Skelton
        WINGS ATTRACT (IRE) 7 The Rann Family Chris Bealby
        WRATH OF TITANS (IRE) 7 Gigginstown House Stud Sandra Hughes IRE
        68 entries
        20 Irish-trained

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        • #19
          Killer Crow

          He'll go for the novice handicap on the first day. He was second in a Leopardstown chase last time behind Empire Of Dirt and I think he's a mark of 136 in England, with the ceiling for the race 140. It will be a tight, compressed handicap. He should have a good each-way chance when you look at the horses that have been finishing around him. He travels, this looks his ideal trip and I think the race is made for him.

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          • #20
            The Close Brothers Novices’ Handicap Chase
            Listed, £65,000 Total Prize Fund. Cheltenham, 5.30pm, Tuesday, March 15, two miles and four and a half furlongs (2m 4f 78yds). For novice five-year-olds and upwards rated 0-140. Penalties: after February 28, a winner of a chase 5lb. No penalty to increase a horse’s weight above 11st 10lb. Entries closed February 23 (68 entries), entries released February 25, weights revealed March 2. Six-day confirmation stage March 9, final declaration stage 10.00am, March
            14. Maximum field of 20.

            Horse Age Wgt Owner Trainer
            BALLYALTON (IRE) 9 11-10 John Westwood Ian Williams
            ALOOMOMO (FR) 6 11-10 The Large G & T Partnership Warren Greatrex
            BRIDGETS PET (IRE) 9 11-10 Barry Connell Alan Fleming IRE
            GERMANY CALLING (IRE) 7 11-10 Tyrone Hanlon Charlie Longsdon
            THOMAS BROWN 7 11-10 The Corse Lawners Harry Fry
            DOMESDAY BOOK (USA) 6 11-09 Mrs S J Brookhouse Henry de Bromhead IRE
            AMORE ALATO 7 11-09 Mrs Sarah Faulks Johnny Farrelly
            NICKNAME EXIT (FR) 6 11-09 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE
            MCKINLEY 6 11-09 Gigginstown House Stud Willie Mullins IRE
            SAMBREMONT (FR) 6 11-09 Shanakiel Racing Syndicate Willie Mullins IRE
            JAVERT (IRE) 7 11-09 Axom LII Emma Lavelle
            OUT SAM 7 11-09 Swanee River Partnership Warren Greatrex
            KILLALA QUAY 9 11-09 Richard & Mrs Susan Perkins Charlie Longsdon
            RACING PULSE (IRE) 7 11-09 Carl Hinchy Rebecca Curtis
            ON TOUR (IRE) 8 11-08 T Hywel Jones Evan Williams
            WILLOW'S SAVIOUR 9 11-08 Triple F Partnership Dan Skelton
            UNIC DE BERSY (FR) 8 11-08 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE
            TWELVE ROSES 8 11-08 Jones Broughtons Wilson Weaver Kim Bailey
            DOUBLE SHUFFLE (IRE) 6 11-08 Crossed Fingers Partnership Tom George
            BOUVREUIL (FR) 5 11-08 Chris Giles & Potensis Bloodstock Ltd Paul Nicholls
            BISHOPSLOUGH (IRE) 8 11-08 Barry Connell Alan Fleming IRE
            JAYO TIME (IRE) 7 11-07 S R Holt & Mrs B M Ayres Kerry Lee
            CENTRAL FLAME 8 11-07 Messrs F T Walton James Walton
            REZORBI (FR) 5 11-07 Sean O'Driscoll and Michael O'Flynn Jonjo O'Neill
            KATGARY (FR) 6 11-07 Andrea & Graham Wylie Paul Nicholls
            FOURTH ACT (IRE) 7 11-07 Wendy & Malcolm Hezel Colin Tizzard
            FIVE IN A ROW (IRE) 8 11-06 P J Martin Brian Ellison
            KILLER CROW (IRE) 7 11-06 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE
            CAPTAIN VON TRAPPE (IRE) 7 11-06 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE
            BALLYKAN 6 11-05 Simon Munir & Isaac Souede Nigel Twiston-Davies
            GOLDEN DOYEN (GER) 5 11-05 Merry Old Souls Philip Hobbs
            THOMAS CRAPPER 9 11-05 Apisukcom Robin Dickin
            BUCKHORN TIMOTHY 7 11-05 The Buckhorn Racing Team Colin Tizzard
            FULL SHIFT (FR) 7 11-05 J P McManus Nicky Henderson
            KALANE (IRE) 7 11-05 Paul Murphy Charlie Longsdon
            MINELLA PRESENT (IRE) 7 11-04 Jane Gerard-Pearse Neil Mulholland
            KATACHENKO (IRE) 7 11-04 Trevor Hemmings Donald McCain
            ALL TOGETHER (FR) 5 11-03 Mrs Z Wentworth Johnny Farrelly
            DEEP TROUBLE (IRE) 9 11-03 Lady Jane Grosvenor Ben Case
            PAIROFBROWNEYES (IRE) 7 11-03 Fibbage Syndicate Barry Murphy
            MOUNT GUNNERY 8 11-01 Clipper Logistics Group Ltd Pat Fahy IRE
            WALDORF SALAD 8 11-01 Alan Parker Venetia Williams
            ORBASA (FR) 5 11-01 Potensis Bloodstock Limited Paul Nicholls
            WRATH OF TITANS (IRE) 7 11-00 Gigginstown House Stud Sandra Hughes IRE
            SPECIAL CATCH (IRE) 9 11-00 Mike Browne & William McKeown Keith Reveley
            EMPRESARIO (IRE) 7 10-12 B J Hooper Matthew J Smith IRE
            PRESSURIZE (IRE) 10 10-12 Sarah Williams Venetia Williams
            WESTERNERS SON (IRE) 8 10-12 Michael J Slattery/Karl Slattery Dermot McLoughlin IRE
            HEPIJEU (FR) 5 10-11 Countrywide Vehicle Rentals Taxi Hire Charlie Longsdon
            WINGS ATTRACT (IRE) 7 10-11 The Rann Family Chris Bealby
            KILRONAN HIGH (IRE) 7 10-11 Mrs J K Powell Nigel Twiston-Davies
            BALLYBOLLEY (IRE) 7 10-10 Simon Munir & Isaac Souede Nigel Twiston-Davies
            ASTIGOS (FR) 9 10-09 A Brooks Venetia Williams
            ALTIEPIX (FR) 6 10-09 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE
            VIKEKHAL (FR) 7 10-09 N J Roach Gary Moore
            JOHNNY OG 7 10-08 T Hanlon M Boothright S Hanlon N Martin Martin Keighley
            IMAGINE THE CHAT 7 10-08 J P McManus Rebecca Curtis

            RELENTLESS DREAMER (IRE) 7 10-03 Nigel Morris Rebecca Curtis
            PORTWAY FLYER (IRE) 8 9-13 Patrick Kelly Ian Williams
            BODEGA 8 9-11 Paul Williams Ian Williams
            THE SOCIETY MAN (IRE) 9 8-00 Alan Mann Michael Chapman

            61 entries remain
            15 Irish-trained
            MYSTIFIABLE AND PORT MELON (IRE) ARE NOT QUALIFIED

            BLAIR PERRONE (IRE), FREE EXPRESSION (IRE), LORD SCOUNDREL (IRE), MONKSLAND (IRE) AND NOBLE ENDEAVOR (IRE) HAVE BEEN EXPUNGED UNDER RULE (F) 80

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            • #21

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              • #22
                MAX 20

                1 2/U62F Ballyalton24 9 11-10 Ian Williams100 140 58 148
                2 6-1113 Aloomomo24 6 11-10 Warren Greatrex 140 83 148
                3 5U15P1 Bridgets Pet45 9 11-10 Alan Fleming 140 89 139
                4 9-1214 Germany Calling129 7 11-10 Charlie Longsdon 140 124 149
                5 6-121U Thomas Brown17 7 11-10 Harry Fry 140 105 151
                6 62-313 Domesday Book51 6 11-9 Henry De Bromhead 139 109 138
                7 42U24 Amore Alato24 7 11-9 Johnny Farrelly 139 102 155
                8 8-5216 McKinley38 6 11-9 W P Mullins 139 107 142
                9 F2211 Sambremont30 6 11-9 W P Mullins 139 120 137
                10 55-1U1 Javert94 7 11-9 Emma Lavelle 139 126 150
                11 F-6311 Out Sam31 7 11-9 Warren Greatrex 139 110 158
                12 P-1441 Killala Quay17 9 11-9 Charlie Longsdon 139 125 156
                13 6/751P Racing Pulse31 7 11-9 Rebecca Curtis 139 83 147
                14 80-119 On Tour45 8 11-8 Evan Williams 138 120 151
                15 11/141 Willow´s Saviour25 9 11-8 Dan Skelton Harry Skelton 138 124 150
                16 5/1PP2 Twelve Roses17 8 11-8 Kim Bailey 138 119 148
                17 11-241 Double Shuffle90 6 11-8 Tom George 138 99 148
                18 7-0515 Bouvreuil45 5 11-8 Paul Nicholls Sam Twiston-Davies 139 116 145

                all in plus 2 of this 4 ( probably all)

                19 161U22 Jayo Time26 7 11-7 Kerry Lee 137 141 149
                20 30311F Rezorbi45 5 11-7 Jonjo O´Neill100 138 — 143
                21 610-13 Katgary95 6 11-7 Paul Nicholls 137 95 151
                22 31F231 Fourth Act24 7 11-7 Colin Tizzard 137 91 148


                Missing out ?

                23 5-1011 Five In A Row17 8 11-6 Brian Ellison67 Danny Cook 136 92 148
                24 605122 Killer Crow58 7 11-6 Gordon Elliott B J Cooper 136 49 145


                25 1114P4 Ballykan17 6 11-5 Nigel Twiston-Davies100 135 129 149
                26 2-7308 Thomas Crapper74 9 11-5 Robin Dickin100 Charlie Poste 135 97 150
                27 312F1 Buckhorn Timothy60 7 11-5 Colin Tizzard 135 107 146
                28 8-781P Full Shift37 7 11-5 Nicky Henderson 135 128 148


                unlikely to get in ?

                29 2-3122 Minella Present123 7 11-4 Neil Mulholland 134 111 150
                30 4-2122 Katachenko77 7 11-4 Donald McCain83 134 134 146
                31 38-311 Pairofbrowneyes79 7 11-3 Barry T Murphy M P Fogarty 133 117 145
                32 12-231 Mount Gunnery26 8 11-1 P A Fahy 131 92 134
                33 4-1123 Waldorf Salad24 8 11-1 Venetia Williams 131 132 152
                34 261431 Orbasa16 5 11-1 Paul Nicholls 132 108 150
                35 1561P1 Johnny Og105x 7 10-13 Martin Keighley50 129 113 149
                36 231F83 Empresario95F 7 10-12 Matthew J Smith 128 111 146
                37 3-8311 Pressurize40 10 10-12 Venetia Williams 128 135 150
                38 21312P Hepijeu138 5 10-11 Charlie Longsdon 128 120 143
                39 14132 Wings Attract23 7 10-11 Chris Bealby 127 131 147
                40 581FP3 Kilronan High19 7 10-11 Nigel Twiston-Davies100 127 131 147
                41 37433 Ballybolley49 7 10-10 Nigel Twiston-Davies100 126 134 149
                42 432715 Astigos10 9 10-9 Venetia Williams 125 128 156
                43 25115P Vikekhal112 7 10-9 Gary Moore 125 104 149
                44 1-81PP Imagine The Chat18 7 10-8 Rebecca Curtis 124 103 153
                45 233F21 Bodega105x 8 10-2 Ian Williams100 118 139 154
                46 93-7P Portway Flyer71 8 9-13 Ian Williams100 115 74 129
                47 3357P4 The Society Man14 9 8-0 Michael Chapman 88

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                • #23
                  The race is becoming pointless - a novice chase for horses rated between 138 and 140

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                  • #24
                    Ridiculous that a festival handicap should have a weight range of just 2lb, shows the changing face of handicaps and hiw they're compressing all the time....

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by mayo View Post
                      The race is becoming pointless - a novice chase for horses rated between 138 and 140
                      It's div 2 of the JLT but for poorer horses....

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                      • #26
                        Phil Smith picks the field. Remove the upper limit or scrap it altogether.

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                        • #27
                          Haven't they just reduced the upper limit ?
                          looking at the decs it's hard to argue that changes have worked.
                          Imagine having a horse rated 137, 3lb inside the limit, and not qualifying....

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                          • #28
                            Will be shame if Killer Crow misses out. I liked Elliot's tactics of entering it at Cheltenham / or another UK fixture earlier in the season to gauge what mark it would get from Phil Smith, once they saw the mark, it didn't run and has been protected since. Add in it being a Presenting, it had appeal.

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                            • #29
                              Ballyalton, Killala Quay and Out Sam probably won't turn up in this. I think Killer Crow will sneak in....just!

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                              • #30
                                Sambremont another who won't run.

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