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Yep, true, it's becoming harder for trainers to conceal a horses abilities these days as they run the risk of not getting in, that bottom weight has slowly been climbing over the years, long gone are the days when handicaps had fewer than the max field and the bottom few were 'wrong' at the weights.... -
Gordon Elliott leaning towards the Supreme with Tombstone.Comment
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Is Yorkhill being over looked still at 16s in places ? Wylie says one if Yorkhill & Bellshill will go for this and the other to the Neptune so likely it will be Yorkhill in this. Form of the Tolworth working out well with Agrapart on Saturday. Obviously considered inferior to Min by the stable but better form in the book than many shorter in the betting and wouldn't be the first time this season the 'lesser' Mullins horse has surprised !Comment
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All the betting in recent weeks though has indicated Yorkhill for Neptune and in some places Bellshill maybe now for Albert Bartlett. I'd backed Bellshill antepost for the Neptune but read he scoped badly so hoping they stick with him for Neptune.Comment
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I have backed Mullins to win the 3 novice hurdles so hope they go that way with them. Splitting them that way got to be his best chance of winning those two racesOriginally posted by Ballybeen View Post
:o or another punter talking through his pocket
Last edited by Guest; 16 February 2016, 06:59 AM.Comment
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Donn
Silver Concorde (Dermot Weld)
Silver Concorde has yet to win over hurdles, but he will be an interesting outsider in the Supreme Novices' Hurdle if he takes his chance in the race.
There is no doubting Dermot Weld's horse's talent. He won the Champion Bumper at Cheltenham in 2014, when he had Shaneshill, Black Hercules, Killultagh Vic, Definitly Red and Modus behind him, thereby proving his ability to act at Cheltenham and under Cheltenham Festival conditions.
Winner of a maiden on the flat at Navan in October 2014, he was beaten at long odds-on by Blair Perrone in a maiden hurdle at Leopardstown's Christmas Festival on unsuitably heavy ground that season, but he didn't run badly behind Nichols Canyon and his better-fancied stable companion Windsor Park in the Grade 1 Deloitte Hurdle back at Leopardstown last February.
He didn't make it to Cheltenham last year, but he improved on the flat last summer, winning two of his three races, the latter the competitive November Handicap at Leopardstown off a mark of 91. Now rated 97 on the flat, he is a potentially high-class hurdler.
He was run just once over hurdles this season, he finished second behind Supasundae in the Leopardstown maiden hurdle in which Blair Perrone beat him 12 months previously. Again, that was on unsuitably heavy ground. His record on ground that is soft or better reads 3211214171, and he should be a different horse when he gets back on the better spring ground.Comment
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Could we be dealt another blow? Min shaky on the exchanges..Comment
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I hope The Donn is right. I really fancy SC. He's in a few antepost bets of mine.Comment
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It looks that way TR. Thanks for the hesds up.Originally posted by TheRowebot View Post
I just went and backed Supersundae before the odds go boom.Comment
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Phew. Confirmed by WPM that Min is fine - exchange now settling. I can't take this much more..Last edited by TheRowebot; 18 February 2016, 10:26 AM.Comment
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Just confirms that those (some, not all) in the industry with knowledge and information that isn't available to the public will run to their machines in an attempt to effectively defraud punters.Originally posted by TheRowebot View Post
I remember a few years ago coming home drunk one Saturday night a few weeks before Cheltenham, I'd had a decent day and when I saw £500 available to back Quevega at evens (betfair) when she was 8/11 best industry price I couldn't press the buttons quick enough.
I got lucky she made it to the race and won, but I fully suspect that was someone/bookie with contacts in the yard and there had been a setback with the horse and that individual was trying to cheat money from anyone....Comment
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I see the high st have pushed min out so it could be the betfair walk is just a response.
Stan James go 2/1 which isn't a surprise given the talent Min faces....Comment
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The only horse that worries me is Yorkihill, his form is far superior to mins, I initially thought yorkhill would go for the neptune possibly as didn't believe he wanted the minimum trip, thiught he looked good at 2 and a half, anyway it's just up in the air at the moment with all the mullins runners which makes it hard for us punters considering his festival form and the fact he's bound to be champion trainer, I think the only horse i'm not concerned about is Douvan for the arkle....Comment
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Not Altior ?Originally posted by gjt7756 View Post
I still think Tombstone has a say in this if this is where he ends up.
It's a strong renewal for meComment
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Altior has looked good, but when you consider the market has cut him to 4/1 2nd fav and Yorkhill is 8/1 i would side all day with Yorkhill if he runs, also i think his form is better, i have this nagging feeling that Altior could get lit up at Cheltenham with the crowd and the first race roar, tombstone for me has looked a bit like an awkward ride in his last two runs and difficult to win with, he for me has place chances at bestComment
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