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I am not a minion just yet. Horses who pull that hard usually dont win at Cheltenham. If i had the big prices ( jealous as ****) I would deffo be laying a bit off.
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Agree Mayo. He needs to settle much quicker. Ruby just could not get him settled as hard as he tried. Min just had other ideas. But the pace in the Supreme should be a strong enough that will allow him to settle quicker. Just like she. We saw Vautour and Douvan early in their careers the question will also be how much will Min find off the Bridal.
I also completely agree with others statements that the value in Min has now gone. Would have any bit of the double figure prices but just pulled the trigger too late.Comment
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I've got some of the bigger prices on Min in several multiples but I think he is beatable. He jumps very nicely but he'll need to settle better than he has in his first two races to win a supreme.
I'm convinced he is a short price as the bookies are desperate to minimise the potential losses on a Mullins clean sweep on day one, rather than the liabilities they have on him alone.Comment
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Yep, good point that, so many will look for Mullins yankees and accas and not so many are prepared to wait until the Arkle for their interest to begin, Min looks like being the stables main hope in the Supreme and as such will be entered on thousands of slips with Douvan, Annie Power, Faugheen etc, they don't need to offer any value because punters will enter Mins name regardless of how little value his odds represent...Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View PostComment
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Exactly Istabraq. The shorter the price, the bigger the certainty.......well that's what some people think like.Comment
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I'm pretty sure Douvan was fairly keen in the supreme last year and did alright. Mins french form is irrelevant, He was bought from a trainer Harold Kirk trusts and who Rich ricci said does not go hard on his horses early on.
Min for supreme for me with a yorkhill saver!Comment
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"I think it's fairly obvious at this stage that we'll take everyone on," said Gigginstown's Eddie O'Leary. "Min was impressive on Saturday, no doubt, but at the moment Tombstone is our intended horse for the Supreme and we'll find our own level with him."
"A lot of judges thought we should have won the Future Champions Novice Hurdle but things just didn't happen for him and he's a horse we think plenty of," he said.
"He was a little keen the last day so we'll stick a hood on for the Deloitte at Leopardstown [on February 6] and see how he gets on."
O'Leary added: "I wouldn't like to forget Petit Mouchoir either. He finished just behind Tombstone when they were second and third behind Long Dog at Christmas and both of our horses were having only their second run. And Disko is a very talented horse who remains in the mix too."Comment
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robbie mcnamara on the final furlong podcast said he was talking to willie the other day about Min and asked him if he was as good as all the hype and talk about him, willie said hes better! :0Comment
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De Bromhead is well-placed to assess the Sky Bet Supreme Novices' Hurdle as his Attribution was second to hot-favourite Min at Punchestown last Saturday, but he is hopeful Supasundae can make up into a serious contender at Cheltenham.
He said: "We know our fellow runs well on good ground as he showed when he ran well in the Champion Bumper last season.
"Min was very impressive, very good. We don't know if he goes on good ground and he was a bit keen, but he did look very good."Comment
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Can anyone remember seeing these odds this high? I can't!Originally posted by bitchy View PostComment
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What amazes me is that anyone can get more than a fiver on, £300 e/w would get queried and referred to every senior trader in any organisation, if you're a big lifetime loser they may let you have £50 at 50s and the rest at a shorter price but to get the lot at 50s really surprises me.Originally posted by loveracing View Post
Bookies don't want punters having those bets anymore, the independents have all disappeared and they all work to small margins and/or rely on shop machines and online casinos for profit....Comment
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Your spot on there Ista. I am able to get 300 e/w on horses but never tried on anyting bigger than 20/1 etc.Originally posted by Istabraq View Post
I remember looking at the 2016 Supreme odds last year the day of the Fest and never remember Min being 50/1.Comment
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