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2016 Supreme Novices

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  • Altior's course win over a 147 rated rival (Maputo) and on quicker ground has to give him a huge chance ?
    Even Champagne Fever was only rated 148 when he won the Supreme, Altior currently rated 154....

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    • It's one of those things, yes he beat maputo half a length but maputo hasn't been out since so the form has yet to be franked, certainly nothing else in behind has done anything for the form, Alrior did come out next time and beat open eagle 13 lengths which on the face of it is decent form but cleary that trip was too short for him and has done well over further since, i just feel yorkhills last run has real substance to the form and is the main threat to min should he run, i feel the market will reflect that should he be declared for this and not the neptune

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      • Maputo was injured during the race, and has been retired.

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        • Yorkill over Altior all day long. But by the way GW was talking about him on ATR sounded like he was leaning towards the Neptune.

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          • If Bellshill recovers from a bad scope after its last race and both he and Yorkhill are ready for Chelters then I see Yorkhill going Supreme.Mullins was quoted as saying the Neptune was the race for Bellshill so I'd say they would stick to that if both horses are well for the races.

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            • Originally posted by TimRiggins View Post
              Maputo was injured during the race, and has been retired.
              He unfortunately later had to be put down due to the injury

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              • Anyone else hear that Min fell during schooling and requires stitches?

                Probably the rumour mill on overdrive but it could explain the drifting...

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                • Originally posted by Zipiter View Post
                  Anyone else hear that Min fell during schooling and requires stitches?

                  Probably the rumour mill on overdrive but it could explain the drifting...
                  I haven't heard anything. I assumed that it was the result of someone deliberately orchestrating the drift. I've heard of people laying horses to force their price out and then when others start panicking and pushing the price out further, they step back in and take the big prices on offer.

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                  • Originally posted by KingSprinterSacre View Post
                    He unfortunately later had to be put down due to the injury
                    Sad to hear that

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                    • Min easing with the books is probably a direct result of the Faugheen injury.

                      Betfair markets can get very thin at this time of year annd doesnt take much money to cause a stir when NRNB is close.

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                      • Originally posted by Old Vic View Post
                        Min easing with the books is probably a direct result of the Faugheen injury.

                        Betfair markets can get very thin at this time of year annd doesnt take much money to cause a stir when NRNB is close.
                        I agree OV. Min's price has been ridiculously short for some time. I'm not saying it can't or won't win but it's price has been short due to the Mullins factor and all the acca's rolling up on the Tuesday. Now that is less of an issue for the bookies they can afford to ease the price - still too short as far as I'm concerned though.

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                        • Originally posted by Cashew King View Post
                          I agree OV. Min's price has been ridiculously short for some time. I'm not saying it can't or won't win but it's price has been short due to the Mullins factor and all the acca's rolling up on the Tuesday. Now that is less of an issue for the bookies they can afford to ease the price - still too short as far as I'm concerned though.
                          He is getting close to backable for me CK. Bellshill a could be anything.

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                          • Originally posted by Old Vic View Post
                            He is getting close to backable for me CK. Bellshill a could be anything.
                            I honestly think it will be bigger on the day so don't see the point in backing it ante post with the risks that come with that. The likes of paddy power & skybet will have money back offers etc.

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                            • Townshend finally out today, 2:55 at fairyhouse, possibly to get a run in before the festival??? same great connections as Min, Douvan etc...

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                              • It looks like Townshend will be heading for one of the handicaps, at a guess I'd say the Martin Pipe - a race WPM has a very good record in.

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