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2016 Supreme Novices

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  • He'd need to win the betfair impressively to be a serious contender. His run in last season's bumper means I can't dismiss him just yet.

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    • and speaking of de bumper

      Pipe said in his weekly blog: "It remains very much touch and go whether Moon Racer will make it to the festival next month. We are doing everything we can to get him there in tip-top order but he will certainly not be running prior to Cheltenham."

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      • Paddy P must think Tombstone is heading here - into 10s for the Supreme and out to 20s for the Neptune. To be fair Eddie O'Leary always maintained it was their supreme horse and looked to get outstayed on Sunday !

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        • Its looking Yorkhill is going to reroute to Neptune as well looking at the two sets of odds....another blow to my ante post bets...

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          • Originally posted by iainmcf View Post
            Its looking Yorkhill is going to reroute to Neptune as well looking at the two sets of odds....another blow to my ante post bets...
            Yeah - the 43s available on the exchange for the Supreme wouldn't fill you with hope - ������

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            • Kim Bailey is edging towards running Musselburgh winner Charbel in the Sky Bet Supreme Novices' Hurdle at the Cheltenham Festival.

              Bailey still has the option of stepping the five-year-old up in trip for the Neptune Investment Management Novices' Hurdle, but has a preference for the two-mile Festival curtain-raiser on March 15.

              An easy winner of a Supreme trial at the East Lothian circuit at the weekend, Charbel finished second behind hot Neptune favourite Yanworth on his penultimate start at Ascot in December.

              "We expected him to win at Musselburgh and his run at Ascot was self-explanatory," said Bailey.

              "We were with Yanworth until the last, and before that he should have won at Doncaster when he was second.

              "We were really pleased at Musselburgh as he really wants better ground than that.

              "He's entered in both races at Cheltenham - there's also the option of a handicap, too - but I'd say the two-mile novice hurdle is the one, I think."

              Charbel won two bumpers last season for Tom Mullins before finishing fourth in Grade One company at Punchestown behind Bellshill.

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              • Nico

                He’s got a similar programme to my Supreme contender Altior in that he is being kept fresh for Cheltenham.

                Everything has gone to plan so far with Sprinter. If we get him in the same condition as we did for the seasonal reappearance, we could give Un De Sceaux some race in the Champion Chase.

                Talking of Altior, we are yet to decide whether we will give him a racecourse gallop or send him out for a run before the Festival. He is very, very fresh at the minute.

                If we get him to Cheltenham in great condition, he has a solid chance in the Supreme on good ground.

                On his Kempton performance, he could be underestimated with all the hype around Min. Altior has learned to settle much better in his races now and seems progressive.

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                • Winter Escape unlikely to go

                  "I doubt he'll go to Cheltenham. We'll have to step him up in class and get another run into him. He may have another run and then maybe go to Aintree.

                  "He's only had two races in his life. He has plenty to learn, but he's potentially very exciting."

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                  • Davy Russell's Blog

                    Tombstone

                    It may just be that Tombstone was beaten by a very good horse in the shape of Bleu Et Rouge in the Deloitte Hurdle last weekend.

                    Hindsight is a great thing, but when you look back at the race at Christmas when he finished behind Long Dog, he was just as unlucky as Tombstone in-running.

                    All that said, I haven’t lost faith in Tombstone and the better ground and fast pace of a Supreme Novices’ looks ideal. He’s only got some horse called Min to beat!

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                    • Massively disappointed in Modus yesterday.

                      Cant see him showing up here now at all. Martin Pipe Coral or County must be way more likely.

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                      • Originally posted by mayo View Post
                        Massively disappointed in Modus yesterday.

                        Cant see him showing up here now at all. Martin Pipe Coral or County must be way more likely.
                        On the face of it you're right mayo, but you need to watch 22 re-runs of the race a track every horse.
                        I've just watched Modus and think he got unsettled by the scrimmaging approaching the first where he didn't look like settled and immediately found himself 15l off the pace and with 18 horses in front of him, he was hampered by the fall of Dicosimo, he made some good ground rounding the turn heading into the straight where he ran into the back of the weakening Sternrubin who was being pulled up, when he then saw daylight he didn't pick up and Schofield wasn't too hard on him from 2 out.
                        I wouldn't give up on him just yet, it could be he needs better ground or more likely the hustle of a big field over 2m it all happens a little too quick for him, if he's dropped a few lb and gets in the Coral Cup with a low weight on quicker ground he could be a player....

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                        • Buveur D'air a non runner now today at Exeter.

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                          • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post
                            On the face of it you're right mayo, but you need to watch 22 re-runs of the race a track every horse.
                            I've just watched Modus and think he got unsettled by the scrimmaging approaching the first where he didn't look like settled and immediately found himself 15l off the pace and with 18 horses in front of him, he was hampered by the fall of Dicosimo, he made some good ground rounding the turn heading into the straight where he ran into the back of the weakening Sternrubin who was being pulled up, when he then saw daylight he didn't pick up and Schofield wasn't too hard on him from 2 out.
                            I wouldn't give up on him just yet, it could be he needs better ground or more likely the hustle of a big field over 2m it all happens a little too quick for him, if he's dropped a few lb and gets in the Coral Cup with a low weight on quicker ground he could be a player....
                            I think he could potentially be very very good but just cant see him running in the Supreme. He is in most of my L15/L31 either with and without Min.

                            Was rated 139 and might get dropped a bit.Martin Pipe was 135-144 last year. Coral Cup 138-155. County 134-146.

                            I think the trend is that bottom rating has been rising in the handicaps so will be close to bottom weight in any of those - if he gets in.

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                            • anyone know if the following are intended runners here ?

                              Penglai Pavilion
                              Its a freebee
                              Supasundae
                              Tycoon Prince

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                              • Originally posted by mayo View Post
                                anyone know if the following are intended runners here ?

                                Penglai Pavilion
                                Its a freebee
                                Supasundae
                                Tycoon Prince
                                Mayo, I am pretty sure Supasundae will be heading here, read a quote somewhere from the trainer last month.

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