2016 Ryanair

[Old Vic]

VVM now running over hurdles tomorrow at Clonmel.

back up for mares or annie to world hurdle ?

[Ballybeen]

I hope neither. After she win her season opener Ruby said they'd need to soon put her up in class and in with the opposite sex. Since then she's been entered in a mates chase that she didn't run in and now a 2m hurdle.

[Ballybeen]

VVM out today at Clonmel in a 2m hurdle race.

[Morning Glory]

Bet365 now NRNB on this race ( on their own).

Looking at their book I think 6 of the top 8 will run elsewhere.

A bit like Annie in the World Hurdle the NRNB price probably reflects an expectation among Ricci possibles that Vautour will run here and Vroon Vroom Mag wont. If Vautour was redirected elsewhere the current 12/1 about Vroom Vrrom Mag will look at absolute ew gift and definite hedging opportunity. I dont know which of the two or any will run here but would be confident he wont run both. VVM backed.

[Old Vic]

One thing that popped into my head last night was that Vautour will go to the 2016 Festival aiming to win a third different race in succession. Only Bobs Worth has achieved that since Flying Bolt in the 1960s. Don Poli will be the the only other horse in 2016 to have won at last two festivals and going for a new race.

Ryanair looks easy and Vautour could take the Imperial Commander route to 2017 Gold Cup where he could be first to do 4 ?

[Istabraq]

Champagne Fever came within the length of a Monte Cristo No' 5 of achieving that feat....

[Old Vic]

Champagne Fever came within the length of a Monte Cristo No' 5 of achieving that feat....

cold sweats for many thinking about that.

[Cashew King]

Road to Riches - could he turn up here as suggested by Lydia with the 2 Dons heading up the Gigginstown Gold Cup challenge. Tend to agree with her that 16/1 would be a big price even if Vautour ends up in this ?

[loveracing]

Road to Riches - could he turn up here as suggested by Lydia with the 2 Dons heading up the Gigginstown Gold Cup challenge. Tend to agree with her that 16/1 would be a big price even if Vautour ends up in this ?

I think it would be daft not to give RTR another shot for a horse to come pretty close last year on ground a tad softer than he prefered. You also have to remember it was his first run at the venue so may have more experience this year.

[Istabraq]

I think Road to Riches has to go for the Gold Cup after his close 3rd last year.
He was running in 3m novice races as a hurdler 3 years ago so in my opinion it would be a mistake to drop back in trip.

Many have said the Ryanair is a weak renewal this year, whilst I think (and my AP voucher very much hopes) Cue Card will be Gold Cup bound there is a chance he lands in this, throw in Al Ferof, Silviniaco Conti, Vroum Vroum Mag, Ptit Zig, Dynaste and maybe even Simonsig, it's a race full of talent with several multiple G1 winners

[Faugheen_Machine]

Ista - surely Cue Card goes for the gold cup. The £1m bonus will make certain of that.

[Yeehaa]

Never thought of SC for this. Only quoted by Stan James but possible.

[iainmcf]

Has there ever been a year where the top 5 in the Gold Cup betting could just as easily be the same top 5 in the betting for the Ryanair!

[Istabraq]

Ista - surely Cue Card goes for the gold cup. The £1m bonus will make certain of that.

For sure, I just used the horse as a guide to the quality that could line up where the consensus is that 2016 could be a weak renewal.
He routed the oppo in 2013 in the race but of course he's Gold Cup bound...

[Cashew King]

Road to Riches - could he turn up here as suggested by Lydia with the 2 Dons heading up the Gigginstown Gold Cup challenge. Tend to agree with her that 16/1 would be a big price even if Vautour ends up in this ?

Ista & Love Racing - I agree RTR deserves another crack but with the 2 Dons both around 5/1 for the Gold Cup and the exchange betting & paddy power odds suggesting Cossack won't be in the Ryanair and no way Poli will be in the Ryanair, isn't there a chance O'leary will want something in his own race rather than have 3 in the Gold Cup. Of the 3 RTR seems most likely with his pipe opener being over 2 miles 4f. Just think a little investment now might look good come March ?