Chelters 2016 Antepost bets

[gjt7756]

I mentioned previously that Thistlecrack was one of my festival bankers, it's a shame it's taken unfortunate circumstances for others to think the same, glad i got him at 5/2 and above in several multiples, unfortunately some were with the likes of Shaneshill, Bellshill and up for review, so hope those three can turn it around from there last runs

[TheRowebot]

What price do we think Douvan goes off on the day? And what do you think the best price we will get on the lead up in bookie specials?

[loveracing]

What are your live contenders with value in price that have previous fest form from last year?

[Faugheen_Machine]

I've been watching last year's festival over and over in recent days because if this ground dries up it will be the best form line to go on in my opinion.

Cole Harden, Shaneshill and Sizing John from the graded races. Got my eye on a few for the handicaps as well - just waiting for NRNB before I get involved.

[Faugheen_Machine]

Forgot to say, the ground changed on the Friday so I've paid less attention to those races

[loveracing]

I've been watching last year's festival over and over in recent days because if this ground dries up it will be the best form line to go on in my opinion.

Cole Harden, Shaneshill and Sizing John from the graded races. Got my eye on a few for the handicaps as well - just waiting for NRNB before I get involved.

I can't agree with you any more F_M, I would throw RTR in the mix if the ground dries up in the graded. A line went straight through the heavy ground Irish for me.

[loveracing]

I am struggling to see which race Taglietelle will be running in. Does anyone have an idea or can find out for us?

[Cashew King]

I am struggling to see which race Taglietelle will be running in. Does anyone have an idea or can find out for us?

I've not seen a target nominated but interesting that they qualified for the Pertemps last time out - where Richard Johnson said after the race he thought they would have been close to winning without an error 3 out.

[loveracing]

I've not seen a target nominated but interesting that they qualified for the Pertemps last time out - where Richard Johnson said after the race he thought they would have been close to winning without an error 3 out.

Thats right CK, he was top weight, swinging when mistake 3 out cost him. I was on him that day and will be all over him next time he runs.

The problem with the Pertemps is he will guarantee to carry top weight. Though I think Fingal Bay won off top weight.

[Faugheen_Machine]

Taglietelle is one of the handicap horses I have an eye on. I'm sure GE has said he's still unexposed over 3 miles so that could mean the Pertemps is the plan. He ran a binder in the Coral and then won at Aintree. Spring ground looks to be the key to him.

[loveracing]

Taglietelle is one of the handicap horses I have an eye on. I'm sure GE has said he's still unexposed over 3 miles so that could mean the Pertemps is the plan. He ran a binder in the Coral and then won at Aintree. Spring ground looks to be the key to him.

So you think he will definitely go to the Fest F_M?

I've lumped on him for the WH nrnb for place money and also 50/1 without Thistlecrack. But I am tempted to go in on the Pertemps if that's his real target.

[Faugheen_Machine]

I think he'll be heading for the Pertemps. It might be worth waiting for NRNB though, just in case!

[mayo]

Ruby

The disappointment of Faugheen’s injury is still raw in the memory but this is sport at the highest level and we have to accept these things will happen.

I suppose it’s no different to a soccer player pulling their hamstring, or a rugby player picking up a muscle injury, and it’s just unfortunate that he and Killultagh Vic are the ones from our team that will miss Cheltenham.

It also reiterated the issues of ante-post betting. Punters must really ask whether or not they were getting value in backing these sort of horses – short-priced ones – so far in advance of the Festival.

There may have been some non-runner no-bet concessions on the singles but Faugheen, in particular, I suspect was a cornerstone of many multiples.

I really don’t understand ante-post betting, unless you’re getting very big prices. At these short odds, many of the horses will likely be the same price or even longer on the day.

And then there’s the fact it’s another three weeks before the Festival. So much can still happen between now and then.

Think back to last year’s Rugby World Cup.

If you backed Ireland before the tournament, the one you backed was not the same one beaten in the quarter-final by Argentina – there were an awful lot of injuries.

That may be the unfortunate vagaries of sport, but it highlights the need for punters to get real value when placing an ante-post bet.

[Coneygme]

Today I took a PP "Special": UDS in the QM, VVM in the Mares and Bristol de Mai in the JLT. Enhanced odds of 24/1.

I can't see UDS getting beaten if he gets round. It's looking increasingly like AP won't be in the Mares race and I'd be fairly confident of VVM if so. Which leaves BDM.... I was really impressed with the recent run, jumped beautifully.

I've only had a few quid on it but wondered whether you think it's a decent bet? After Faugheen's withdrawal earlier this week most of my antepost bets are dead. I promised myself I wouldn't bet again until 15th March but I couldn't resist!

[loveracing]

Today I took a PP "Special": UDS in the QM, VVM in the Mares and Bristol de Mai in the JLT. Enhanced odds of 24/1.

I can't see UDS getting beaten if he gets round. It's looking increasingly like AP won't be in the Mares race and I'd be fairly confident of VVM if so. Which leaves BDM.... I was really impressed with the recent run, jumped beautifully.

I've only had a few quid on it but wondered whether you think it's a decent bet? After Faugheen's withdrawal earlier this week most of my antepost bets are dead. I promised myself I wouldn't bet again until 15th March but I couldn't resist!

It's a good offer Coney, the first 2 are basically bankers if they turn up, though I still think GLV is more value at 10's if he runs in the JLT with the ground to suit and decent track record, not to mention his 7L win over BDM when giving 9lbs. Unless BDM has improved in leaps and bounds I find GLV the one to be on based on value. Just my opinion though.