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2016 Gold Cup

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  • If Don Poli can keep up with Smad Place, Vautour and Cue Card, and is not far off the pace with two to jump then he'll have a great chance,for me though he is a perfect horse for the Grand National, you could see him staying on past tired horses after the Melling Road, the more I look at the shape of the Gold Cup with the pace in the race I see a strong stayer coming out on top and for me Don Cossack will be the one finishing the fastest of all....ive backed Vautour and Road To Riches earlier in year but I'm now thinking Don Cossack is the one.

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    • Originally posted by iainmcf View Post
      If Don Poli can keep up with Smad Place, Vautour and Cue Card, and is not far off the pace with two to jump then he'll have a great chance,for me though he is a perfect horse for the Grand National, you could see him staying on past tired horses after the Melling Road, the more I look at the shape of the Gold Cup with the pace in the race I see a strong stayer coming out on top and for me Don Cossack will be the one finishing the fastest of all....ive backed Vautour and Road To Riches earlier in year but I'm now thinking Don Cossack is the one.
      Totally agree! DP running style has Grand National written all over him.

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      • Interesting that last night ruby seemed more convinced by Djakadams chances and said he will be bending willies ear to run Vautour in the ryan air, suppose would save him from choosing and give him an extra chance of a winner....

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        • Originally posted by gjt7756 View Post
          Interesting that last night ruby seemed more convinced by Djakadams chances and said he will be bending willies ear to run Vautour in the ryan air, suppose would save him from choosing and give him an extra chance of a winner....
          Tells me that Ruby isn't convinced with Vatours stamina, anyone holding a Djakadam voucher should be very encouraged by Rubys comments....

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          • Originally posted by gjt7756 View Post
            Interesting that last night ruby seemed more convinced by Djakadams chances and said he will be bending willies ear to run Vautour in the ryan air, suppose would save him from choosing and give him an extra chance of a winner....
            Although he did mention the reverse forecast as his charity bet.

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            • Originally posted by gjt7756 View Post
              Interesting that last night ruby seemed more convinced by Djakadams chances and said he will be bending willies ear to run Vautour in the ryan air, suppose would save him from choosing and give him an extra chance of a winner....
              Interesting indeed, I did mention quite a few weeks ago that if they both run in this I wouldn't be sure Ruby would choose Vautour over Djakadam. If Ruby is bending Willies ear though he should be talking QM, not Ryanair, better chance in either though than the Gold cup in my view, also it sounds like Djakadam is pleasing them

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              • Both he and AP McCoy were convinced un de scaux has won the QM as long as he stands up, don't believe ruby would want to choose between them two either, by putting Vautour into the ryan air it solves all his problems, with the recent dip in willies yard i'd be more inclined to run Vautour in the ryan air have the win and then if he really is a gold cup horse then go there next year, the horse is only 7 years old after all, might be better over further with another year under his belt

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                • Thinking about it it's actually quite amazing and we forget the Djakadam came 2nd last year but the horse was only 6 years old, now 7 he's still not probably in his prime yet as a chaser, should be favourite it my books

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                  • Originally posted by gjt7756 View Post
                    Thinking about it it's actually quite amazing and we forget the Djakadam came 2nd last year but the horse was only 6 years old, now 7 he's still not probably in his prime yet as a chaser, should be favourite it my books
                    He would be only for the fall. If any horse is going to win easily it is him in my opinion. Does anyone have fallers insurance betting antepost ?

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                    • As I'm firmly entrenched in the Vautour camp, I've spent the day reeling from Ruby's comments last night. There can be no positive taken for Vautour, even the reverse forecast line hardly says Vautour's a good thing.

                      Two thing's I've done today. First, I've taken Don Cossack @ 4/5 in a match bet with Vautour. Second, I've requested a quote for Ruby choosing Djakadam over Vautour.

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                      • Originally posted by stephensmith84 View Post
                        As I'm firmly entrenched in the Vautour camp, I've spent the day reeling from Ruby's comments last night. There can be no positive taken for Vautour, even the reverse forecast line hardly says Vautour's a good thing.

                        Two thing's I've done today. First, I've taken Don Cossack @ 4/5 in a match bet with Vautour. Second, I've requested a quote for Ruby choosing Djakadam over Vautour.
                        Not bad thinking SS, Vautours only attempt at 3miles saw him outstayed by an erstwhile non stayer, whilst the only other highly regarded horse in the race fell, so Vautour could well have been third and then all talk of him going for the Gold cup would have ended. I think the camp are having second thoughts about targets with the shock of losing what they must have viewed as a guaranteed major win with the absence of Faugheen, so they may want to cover more options, Vautour should go for a shorter trip in my view because nothing he's shown guarantees he will get the trip in the blue riband, my preference would be the QM, I don't think UDS would get him off the bridle but I can understand why others would think differently, and I fully respect those views, they could be right, but we'll probably never find out

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                        • Also, I'm a bit troubled by Willie's quote regarding Vautour's training. He simply said he doesn't train the horses differently for the GC trip, instead choosing to train them the same and 'those who stay, stay, those who don't, don't.

                          I'd never knock Willie for obvious reasons, but I'd be amazed if Paul Nicholls did the same with Vautour.

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                          • Fairly sure I was the only Cue Card fan in here, is anyone else starting to believe after Tizzards comments this week ?

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                            • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post
                              Fairly sure I was the only Cue Card fan in here, is anyone else starting to believe after Tizzards comments this week ?
                              I hope he wins for you Ista and for the sake of another British Triple Crown winner.

                              I might just well sit back with my feet up and watch this race. Its gonna be a cracker!

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                              • I'm starting to believe CC can win it......and I never thought I'd be saying that!

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